freenet.exe appears on the process list, but this is just the systray app -
to kill the freenet node process you would need to kill the javaw.exe
process which spawns it (which shows up in the process list as just
javaw.exe).   Having said that, I can't remember what happens if you kill
javaw.exe but not freenet.exe -  i believe freenet.exe pops up a flashing
exclamation mark and says Freenet Is Having Problems (which I guess is
true).

You shouldn't need to kill freenet.exe, ever, as essentially it's doing very
little indeed.  Even the logfile viewer bugs have disappeared :-)

FWIW I've also seen v. high cpu usage if i remove my internet connection -
the problem seems to get worse the longer the internet connection is
unavailable, which doesn't seem healthy.  I get lots of "AARGH! Couldn't
send some kind of backoff message" logs in my logfile, sorry I can't
remember the exact text but I'm sure the java dev knows what I mean here...

d

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholas Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] RE: trouble getting any information


>
> >>Apart from describing the behavior, the point I was trying to make was
> >>that if this happens when the system is in general operation, many may
> >>be affected by freezing of the system -- particularly if ISPs become
> >>even more accustomed to doing it -- because those who have a frozen
> >>system every morning will likely be inclined not to support nodes except
> >>perhaps in the transient state.  And then integration into the system
> >>for access to information will be unlikely to be very popular.  IF the
> >>node freed itself when there is no active Internet link, i.e., when into
> >>a paused state to avoid freezing, it might remain more useful as a
> >>communication medium.  Even better perhaps would be a timed pause with a
> >>reconnection after a moderate
> >>pause period -- 1 minute, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, or 30 minutes, say.
> >>?????   It does seem like a potential problem.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, I don't see why the node would cause a general hang. And in fact,
> >I'd expect that the node's high CPU usage would go away quite quickly
> >in the absence of an internet connection, given all the backoff...
> >evidently this doesn't happen. Any idea why? What does it show on the
> >Environment page when in this state?
> >
> >
> The second day that it occurred, I was quite unable to evaluate the
> system as  I had to kill javaw and freenet
> to get loose from the state.  Ctr-Alt-Del finally interrupted, but that
> only got me to the Windows Security
> window where I could shutdown processes or the system (Freeenet does not
> show on the Applications list).
>
> This very tight loop was a new phenomenon.  I could see some of the log
> the first time, but system hung as
> I tried to buckup very far in the log.  I'll give it another try tonight
> and see if I can save the log for you.  Which
> page is the environmental page?  Warning: even zipped, the log will be
> large.
>
> Nick
>
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