OTOH woulden't the open proxy be an isp? The proxy is really just a
router between two networks. The networks don't need to have the same
lower level protocalls... The other differene would be that no one is
paying him for the service. But then comes in the free ISPs of the dot
com era. Given the political climent in the US and the American Civil
Liberities Union being overwhelmed with its currnet case load.....not
the best time.

Another option would be to provide a list on a public website stating
what ip address requested a given key (and time ofcorse). Tacking a
disclamer at the bottom of all pages with a warning about logging and
being responsible for inaproate content. And finaly making it obvious
that you will block any keys that the police/lawyers request blocked.
I don't piticularly like this option, but it seems the safest. I doubt
any of us could afford to defend ourselves agenst even a cupple
lawsuits. Anyway, long live king bush

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:53:32 +0200, Zenon Panoussis
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> 
> 
> 
> Toad wrote:
> 
> > They are not indexed by google because by default fproxy sends a
> > robots.txt indicating that it shouldn't be spidered.
> 
> Aaah, I see. That explains S' comment too. Well, current
> legislation does not require me to learn java, but it
> does not forbid me to either ;)
> 
> [prosecutor's block orders]
> 
> > So they go after us and make us provide a version with that option.
> 
> Yes, theoretically they they could try, but who is "us"
> in an open source project? If all they wanted was to
> force X content out of a certain node, I think they'd
> go for the easiest way and take down the node. If they
> want more, such as a tool to monitor and control
> underground communications, they'd write their own and
> present it to the public as an improved freenet version.
> 
> In fact, that's exactly what it says on freenetproject.org,
> "new stable version released". Ask me, did I carefully read
> and analyse the code I'm running? Did I build everything
> myself from source? Erhm, uhm, well, can we change the
> subject?
> 
> [UK]
> 
> > But perhaps other jurisdictions are more sane.
> 
> There was a cartoon in Punch a few years ago - I so regret
> I didn't keep it - depicting Bush playing a tambourine and
> Blair in the form of a small monkey on a chain, dancing to it.
> That cartoonist really captured the whole essence of the
> situation in a few penstrokes. If the US has a patriot act,
> why would the UK not have one?
> 
> > The proletariat are the majority. Democracy is "the rule of the mob".
> > And btw, they're not proles. They're middle class in the modern
> > newspeak. They're middle income. They just read the Sun ;).
> 
> Hey, that makes you and me the elite, the intelligentsia,
> the avant-garde in this swamp we live in. Lets see it from
> the bright side :)
> 
> > Seriously, it's a lot easier to convince the average person that Freenet
> > is evil than that it is needed.
> 
> Interestingly, it's seldom you read in the paper about
> petty mafiosi, illegal immigrants and street bums getting
> caught with big archives of kiddie porn. Invariably they
> are well-established members of the middle or higher
> middle class (the real upper class is above suspicion,
> so it doesn't get caught). The class that uses illegal
> content on freenet is the very class that proclaims to
> be against it. Perhaps "mirrornet" would be a better
> name for it: what you see there is what you are.
> 
> Duh. We have come a very long way from technical support
> and I doubt everybody around is interested in these
> philosophical aspects.
> 
> Z
> 
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