Dont get me wrong, i do admire what they are trying to do, and i wish them
the best of luck however i do not free it possible to make it trully
anonymous, it only ramains so because of the current laws, big brother is
nearly here, they are already trying to pass a bill that lets the monitor
itnernet conversations, what is there to stop them from opening their own
nodes and monitoring everyone? soon enough they wont need to figure otu who
it going to, just that its passign through your system and it will be enough
for them to get you, im afraid there is little to stop them, short of
judgement day, if the bill does pass i for one will no longer touch the
internet, im not down with big brother. Freedom is but an illusion as is
anonymity.
as for java, im not sure what they were thinking, im a programer, java is
the most hirrible language ive ever had the displeasure to use, it is slow,
unstable and unreliable, there are many far more powerful languages they
could have used.
anyways, power to you, i hope they achive what they sat out to do, im just
not sure that it is possible.
From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: [freenet-support]
Re:Segfaults infreenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close()
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:33:48 +0000 (UTC)
n/a n/a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> honestly i think its more trouble then its worth, from everything ive
read
> it is completly un-secure which means everyone and their mother is
watching,
No it isn't. The current network does have known attacks sure, but so does
every
current anonymous/psuedo-anonymous network that uses the Internet, and they
always will to some extent - all you can do is make attacks so difficult
and
expensive they're unfeasible in practice. Which is what the devs are trying
to
do. Even on the current network it's a lot harder to track Freenet than the
"regular" p2p you seem to be comparing it to like Gnutella2 or ed2k.
There's a
reason why nobody running freenet has ever got a subpoena from the RIAA's
hired
goons or a DMCA takedown notice, or more to the point why (as far as I
know)
nobody has been prosecuted for trading highly illegal material over it.
> it is painfully slow and un-reliable,
Compared to a well-seeded torrent it's usually slow, sure. (See below for
why.)
But in my experience reliability is better than your average torrent or
most
other p2p - big files might take days, but once they start you can
generally
depend on getting it all in the end. In contrast torrent seeds / p2p peers
can
just disappear and leave you with an incomplete file forever, and quite
often do.
> not to mention that needlessly huge
> file you gotta download when u install it that it never actually lets
you
> finish downloading,
Huh? What file? You mean Java, or what the windows webinstaller downloads?
The windows installer / configurer is somewhat dodgy, partly for this
reason 0.7
is aiming to simplify it a lot and do as much as possible inside the node.
> for what its worth you might as well save yourself the
> headache and use any other p2p.
Well, you are making the fundamental error of comparing it to mature,
non-anonymous p2p apps. Freenet is still a very experimental, beta (or even
alpha depending who you ask ;) network which quite often has to come up
with the
theory as it goes along because nobody has done it before. Its primary goal
is
anonymity, not performance, and it turns out that the two things are
unfortunately diametrically opposed quite often. For example it would be
faster
if it did more path folding, but that would make it less anonymous.
That said, the core developers are well aware that performance is not as
good as
it could and should be. There are good reasons to hope that the 0.7 rewrite
will
be better in this regard when it gets to release quality. Even then though
you
must realise that the ultimate aim of Freenet is *not* blazing-fast popular
warez^Wfile downloading like the completely non-anonymous Bittorrent, but
rather
for secure and anonymous grass-roots distribution of content that may be
highly
illegal/suppressed in some countries or otherwise against the interests of
the
authorities. As in people could be *tortured and killed* if they were
caught.
THAT kind of anonymity.
> with the experience ive had with freenet its my opinion that it has been
> utterly compremised, there is no anonymity.
A JVM crash does NOT mean freenet has been in any way "compromised", it
means
there are bugs in the JVM, like there are in all complex software. These
crashes
are not Freenet's fault, it's Suns (or Blackdown's for some people.) In
fact the
security sandboxing of the JVM is why you get a nice stack trace like those
posted above, the virtual machine has crashed but it was self-contained and
hasn't affected anything else on your computer.
That doesn't mean they don't suck though. I would really like 0.7 release
to be
GCJ'able or at least run OK under Kaffe :/
Bob
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