Hello. I hope this is OK. It’s quite long.

I wonder if anyone can help with this/these question/s-comment/s in 
the form of clarification. I hope it doesn’t seem too petty but I 
wonder if others go through the same confusion as I.

On this page: http://127.0.0.1:8888/plugins/ one can go to: “Load 
Official Plugin”
The viewer can see, as did I, that “Fetch over Freenet is checked 
AND that it says,
“This is untraceable, safe….”   NOW, untraceable means anonymous.
The other choice available is to, “Fetch over the web from 
Freenet’s central servers…and is “TRACEABLE”, meaning NOT 
ANONYMOUS!

(Freenet isn’t safe?)

On this page: FREEMAIL-SETUP
http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:u...@xog49gnltumtjjzj0fvzugdpo4hjusy2us
GQkjE7NY4,EtUH5b9gGpp8JiY-Bm-Y9kHX1q-yDjD-
9oRzXn21O9k,AQACAAE/freemail/4/setup/index.html

It clearly directs one method of using the same plugin page as my 
beginning comment above (Load Official Plugin), with the “only” 
comment for that choice being that it is NOT ANONYMOUS!

So, is one correct to assume that the first directive is false, 
misleading and/or has been tampered with (edited) by someone with 
bad intent? Or is it the second one?

One point I am trying to make here is that this can cause some 
immediate doubt and confusion in someone new to Freenet. I am 
concerned because the world needs Freenet and Tor more than they 
might consciously know. I recently saw figures about the estimated 
number of users for both, and the numbers were very small. They are 
small enough that large arrays of computers, set around the world 
and networked, are capable of watching ALL nodes and gathering the 
data to be analyzed.

Look at Tor. On the Network Map (of the world), there are nodes 
running in sequential order, and all these are located in the same 
place – near the CIA in the US.
Some of these sequential orders are showing up in other locations 
around the Tor network.

I have found Freenet to be so frustrating and confusing to set up 
and use, that as I search the web for information that is clear and 
helpful, I keep coming across more comments from Users who are 
quitting the program. Now it does make sense to me, that with 
anonymity programs, the more using them, the better and more safely 
anonymous it is for all. But, it seems the numbers are dwindling. I 
don’t know.

I have used Tor for about 4 years. I recently went to its Hidden 
Wiki and about one half of all its services were gone! So, I 
wonder, as do others, is Tor is dying out?

I really don’t want to see that for Tor or Freenet.

If one goes to: http://127.0.0.1:8888/plugins/ first, before 
finding the .jar or .zip download page (supposedly both are 
anonymous but of course, IT DOESN’T SAY, then they might make a 
very bad choice solely from being confused by the directions.

So, while this might seem very petty and/or trivial to (I don’t 
know-most who might read this), it is very important to write 
directions for the reader, not the writer!

In Tor, the Hidden Services may be tampered with, changed, 
purposely to be misleading and dangerous, by those who want to 
destroy anonymity and our right to it. They use anonymity to try 
and destroy anonymity, except for them, of course.

Is this also possible with the Freenet pages of “howto’s?” Can they 
be edited so that one is not aware of what is true, accurate and 
good for the User?

Anyway, I am once more trying to set up Freenet, Freemail and Frost 
and am close to quitting. If I were more knowledgeable, I would 
write “howto’s” but I am not. It seems all I am is frustrated.

One last thing, at Freemail-Setup, it tells me to download 
Freemail. The next bit of ‘howto’ is setting it up for “command 
line version setup”.

I’m not doing that. 

I don’t know the pros and cons of command line Freemail. At the end 
of that instruction it says, “Now you have Freemail proxy 
running….”
I DO? How? I didn’t do that so what the fuck happened? Does the 
download set it up or does it have to be set up after it’s 
downloaded? The latter makes sense to me but, it is now telling me 
I already have it running without doing anything. So, why the 
instructions? I mean, C’mon! I have to go by what the writer 
writes, right?

Since it tells me I have it up and running, where is it? I can’t 
find it. These instructions are telling me to insert the long 
Freemail address I was given.
I was given? When? Where? I haven’t done anything yet but the 
directions jump from something I don’t want to do and didn’t do, 
to, “I’m up and running!”

This is a joke right? It’s only for those who are IT smart, meaning 
very few, and anonymity will be shot on site.

Just before it gets to THUNDERBIRD, it tells me, “Remember that the 
Freemail.jar program needs to be running whilst you are reading and 
sending emails. Sooooo, where is it? There is no window to put in 
any information.

Perhaps if I could get some help, yeah, I might be able to help 
others.

Sorry for the rant but writing it out here seems to be (I hope, 
even though I don’t believe in hope), it will be read with 
understanding and with help coming as a result.)

By the way, at the Plugins of Node...yadayadayada, what does the 
word “Visit” mean? Is that some tech-term for “download”, “install” 
or what?
I mean it couldn’t mean going to my email because it hasn’t been 
set up yet!


Best regards to all and to all a good site:)

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