On 8/23/06, urza9814 at gmail.com <urza9814 at gmail.com> wrote: > With 0.5's opennet you don't have to exchange node references. At all. > Your node does it for you. And you'll usually have around 400 > connections with the default settings. And 0.5 has more content and > probably more users, though I'm not sure on that one.
The problem with this is that it's very cheap and easy to infiltrate such a network compared to the darknet aproach that 0.7 is taking. It's just a matter of having enough bandwidth, and a slightly modified freenetnode and you can pretend to be a lot of nodes(or you could just run a lot of nodes) and get connected all over the network and start snooping on stuff. Then a bunch of CPU time to crack the encryption used. Very easy to automate and very cheap compared to what you have to do to do the same on a darknet. On a darknet you have to use social engineering to trick members to letting you in, and that mean you also have to find a member first if they have a small network by themselves instead of using the main network. > > > On 8/23/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com <diddler4u at hotmail.com> wrote: > > I'm new to Freenet and have been watching the discussion about version 0.5 > > vs 0.7. I'm not sure what is meant when the 0.5 advocates talk about > > OpenNet, so could someone enlighten me? I went to the Freenet site hoping to > > find information related to 0.5, even in the WIKI, but it now only contains > > information about 0.7. > > > > I have dedicate an unmonitored Windows XP Pro machine and 1/3 of my > > bandwidth to Freenet. I downloaded and installed 0.7, a no brainer, and got > > it running, but had no nodes to connect to. I had to know another Freenet > > user, preferably someone I knew and trusted, and manually establish a > > connection to them, and they in turn had to have established a connection to > > someone else. Since I know absolutely no other person who is running Freenet > > I had to learn how to use IRC Chat so I could ask someone if I could connect > > to them. These connections are my sole points of contact to Freenet. I have > > no idea how 0.5 handles finding nodes. I don't know who these people are. > > For all I know they could be individuals living on the other side of town, > > the country, or the world and they could just as easily be members of MI5, > > FBI, CIA, or any number of other organizations who monitor and track > > messages on the internet. I do know their IP address, and they know mine. I > > tried to find some people who run 24/7 since having a PC dedicated to Freent > > fulltime, without having someone who is also on 24/7 is not worth much. > > > > I have 7 people who have exchanged node information with me. Of the 7 nodes, > > none are currently connected to me, and if I understand the information, the > > last to go offline did so more than 14 hours ago. I can wait to see if they > > come back online, or I can go back into the IRC chat and try to find new > > nodes. I absolutely hate having to spend time in IRC chat trying to get > > people to exchange connection information with me. I have better things to > > spend my time on, and if Freenet wants my machine and bandwidth it's going > > to have to make sure it stays connected. > > > > Freenet should have me put in a single node, any node, even one found on IRC > > chat, and spider the rest of Freenet establishing and making new connection > > to ensure it stays connected, or it should do something else to > > automatically establish connections. At any rate, once that connection is > > made, Freenet should randomly move my connections throughout the Freenet. I > > should never have hard and firm connections. By 'floating' my connections > > throughout Freenet it can honestly be said I don't know who I'm connected to > > and am simply a node in a collective whole. > > > > I'm going to continue to watch the forum and see how things progress. I'll > > leave my current 0.7 Freenet installed and over the coming weeks decide > > whether to continue, remove and install 0.5, or just shut down completely. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support at freenetproject.org > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at > > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > -- > <HTML> > <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=0&t=57";><img > border="0" alt="Get Firefox!" title="Get Firefox!" > src="http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/180x60/blank.gif"/></a> > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe >
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