Success/failure feedback isn't feasible as it would transform the problem into 
a hashcash problem. What is feasible is adding one more character which would 
be a checksum of the rest, of course this would mess up sometimes...

On Wednesday 07 May 2008 02:39, MyTwoCents wrote:
> I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
> since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
> SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also
> 
> I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
> been trying out FMS.  I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has
> a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
> announcing new identities has problems.
> 
> 1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
> Because: "You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
> SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust.", I cannot post
> messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:
> 
> Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
> From: The Seeker at cI~w2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4V2Gd4
> Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -0000
> Message-ID:
> <D307C15C-56CD-4CC4-9822-3EAF1D0CAC8F at cIw2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4
> V2Gd4>
> 
> That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
> by a program than a human.
> 
> Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to
> say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true.  Of course, I also
> think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
> people with vision impairments.
> 
> The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to no
> trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use
> now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been "solving"
> (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
> part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.
> 
> Which brings me to #2.
> 
> How about some feedback?
> 
> Specifically, when I "solve" a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
> right or not?  My thought, present captchas one at a time.  Allow user to
> fill in and submit.  If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them with
> a new one.  If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with
> a new one.
> 
> This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
> almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
> got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal.  There's absolutely
> ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!
> 
> Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
> absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
> that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
> going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat
> them while I beat him to death with my monitor!
> 
> Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here?  Good!
> 
> WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?
> 
> The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
> anyway to make a point.
> 
> --
> My public keys can be found on my freenet site:
> SSK at TEx6TiaPeszpV4AFw3ToutDb49EPAgM/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
> (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
> and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
> Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
> I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
> Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
> Frost: MyTwoCents at Z+59LNK9NhMvxewYggENU4Ww50s On the 0.5 Freenet board
> 
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