>>on 3/12/01 8:54 PM, Bookout at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>  Whenever I try to set PC's (not just one machine) connected to a Local
>>>  Area EtherNet to Multi-User eBase opened in FileMaker Pro v.4.1, I get the
>>>  following error:
>>>
>>>  "Filemaker cannot host a file because of a network error. Files marked as
>>>  Multi-User will not be available over the network [-10]."
>>>
>>>  If I open  a Mac on the same network to Multi-User and then try to open a
>>>  PC to guest via the "Host" button, the Mac does not show up as the Host
>>>  machine in the PC's window.
>>>
>>>  FMP shows that TCP/IP is loaded successfully on startup on both Mac
>>>  (Quadra 610, System 7.5.3) and
>>>  the PCs.
>>>
>>>  The EtherNet LAN PCs work normally via Client for Microsoft Network using
>>>  NetBui and TCP/IP protocol in other respects. They share "print and file"
>>>  with each other in a peer to peer network..
>>>
>>>  Is there some TCP/IP configuration in Windows 95 that the PCs run that I
>>>  have overlooked? I also wonder how to set TCP/IP in Open Transport of the
>>>  Mac: if "manually," I am required to set the Mac's IP address to a static
>>>  setting. The PC's are set to "automatic" addressing. Should the PC's be
>>>  given static addresses by means of Hosts file?
>>
>>If you host on a PC, can the other PCs open via hosts but not the Mac?
>>
>>Are you using DHCP server? Try having the Mac get its IP address from the
>>same address server as the PCs.  It doesn't make sense, I think, for it to
>>have a static IP address if there's a server responsible for assigning IPs.
>>You don't mention whether the Mac can see printers or servers in the Chooser
>>dialog box.
>
>
>Colin, there is no server responsible for assigning IP's. I'm not 
>using AppleShare, Windows NT/2000 Server or NetWare on a dedicated 
>server machine.
>All the Council has is plain vanilla Windows 95 Client for Microsoft 
>Networks peer-to-peer networking with NetBeui and TCP/IP bound to 
>it. Therefore, the Mac cannot "see" printers or servers in the 
>Chooser dialog box as would be possible using a server to client 
>arrangement. This is apparently a completely different situation 
>from the kind of interoperability offered by FMP/ebase PC to Mac 
>connectivity in which FMP "loads" TCP/IP and makes reciprocal 
>visibility possible? What I am wondering also is just what 
>configuration of TCP/IP does FMP "load"? Do the individual settings 
>of TCP/IP in Mac Open Transport and Windows Properties make any 
>difference to what FMP "loads"? or does FMP configure TCP/IP for 
>itself? There isn't a word on this subject in the ebase 
>Administrator's Manual, in the FMP 4.1 manual or in FMP 4 Bible 
>(Schwartz). Mac Open Transport using Ethernet allows only "manual as 
>opposed to server settings with BootIP, DHCP or RARP." Since no 
>servers are being used on the network, I am left with manual 
>configuration of the Mac as the *only* possiblity. Does this mean 
>that the Windows 95 TCP/IP, IP addresses must also be *manually* 
>set? How does Windows assign IP addresses "automatically" in a 
>peer-to-peer network?
>
>The Council has applied with Semantec recently for additional copies 
>of FMP for its other PCs but at the present time we are working with 
>only one PC on which THE single copy of FMP 4.1 we own is installed. 
>The other machine I am talking about is a Mac which was donated to 
>the Council on which there was already a copy of FMP 4.0 and on 
>which we installed ebase.
>
>So I've tried both approaches:  to open the Mac and PC (first) as 
>host to the other machine, in which cases I get a net work error on 
>either the PC or on the Mac that FMP/ebase cannot be set to 
>Multi-User; also, when an attempt to open either machine as guest 
>the host, of course, does not appear in the appropriate window.
>
>We had an arrangement between two Macs working fine via LocalTalk 
>but the complaint was that the machines were too slow to make 
>entering data into the 29 ebase relational files feasable (25 Mz!). 
>We switched to the PC as host so we could cook at the amazing speed 
>of 133 Mz! (No one should underestimate the extent to which 
>non-profits try to survive with obsolete equipment--there is not one 
>penny in the Council's budget for computer hardward, software or 
>supplies. Everything is "crufted" together from donations--"ugly but 
>temporarily functional."
>
>My difficulty is probably the result of this first attempt at 
>networking and also of a relatively greater familiarity with Macs 
>than PCs.
>
>Thanks, Colin, for your speedy reply to our delimma. I'd like to 
>thank Barry Madore also who has tried to help, but he anticipated 
>himself that using NetBeui alone would leave the Mac stranded.
>
>Henry Bookout
>North Fork Environmental Council
>P.O. Box 799
>Mattituck, NY 11901
>
>631-298-8880

I'm glad to say I got the Mac Multi-User enabled and the PC connected 
to it as a guest via ethernet. This, by manually configuring Mac 
TCP/IP, IP address in Mac Open Transport, essentially, as explained 
for DAVE by Thursby Software Systems, Inc. 
(http://www.homepcnetwork.com/pcmacp2ovr.htm). The PC that talks to 
the Mac had its TCP/IP, IP address configured manually also as 
explained on the website above.I don't understand why three other PCs 
on the same network can talk to my guest PC with their TCP/IP, IP 
address not manually, but automatically assigned, but it works 
anyway. The subnet mask is manually assigned 255.255.255.0 on both PC 
and Mac. I didn't enable the hosts file on the Mac as suggested on 
the webpage, but it still worked (The webpage did not mention a hosts 
file for the PC which I would have thought necessary if the Mac 
needed one.)
Henry Bookout
NFEC
Mattituck, NY

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