Yes the client end of Terminal services can run on almost anything,
especially if you have the Citrix add-on to Terminal services. In the old
days before Terminal services when there was only Citrix, I ran it on Macs,
Windows 3.1, Unix, etc. It can actually run well on really slow old
machines. I think we even ran it on some 386 boxes and certainly on 486s.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: TechRocks Support
> Subject: [support] RE: Terminal Server and ebase
>
>
> Hi Cliff,
>
> Good stuff! This is valuable info for my project. I presume the
> remote users do not need Win 2000 and that Win 95, 98 or ME would
> work just as well. Let me
> know. Thanks!
>
> Tom
> www.joyofsports.org
>
> Clif Graves wrote:
>
> > Tom wrote :
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tom Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >We're now preparing to get Win2k Server
> > > w/ Terminal Services and FMPro Server so multiple remote users
> > > can log in simultaneously. I
> > > plan to post the details of this solution to the list once we get
> > > it up and running.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > www.joyofsports.org
> >
> > What follows is a bit about TechRocks experiance with TS. I
> will be looking
> > forward to hearing your experiances.
> > Clif
> >
> > FYI - TechBit - Win2000 Terminal Server a potential solution
> >
> > Common Problem:
> > Many non-Profits have multiple office sites which need access to central
> > data stored in ebase or other databases and/or wish to offer
> work at home
> > ability to workers.
> >
> > Win2000 Terminal Server a potential solution:
> > Ebase and other FileMaker based databases have always allowed
> accessing a
> > remote host over the internet, but that connection was
> generally too slow
> > and insecure to be considered a real remote access solution.  With the
> > introduction of Microsoft Windows 2000 Server, remote access capability
> > using Windows Terminal Server is included as part of the Windows server
> > software.  This provides one possible method of offering cost effective
> > remote access, at least for Windows users, using Internet connections.
> > Cyrix, an extra cost related software, expands that access to
> remote clients
> > running MAC, UNIX and other systems.
> >
> > Background:
> > TechRocks has been experimenting with methods of providing
> central database
> > access from our various offices and for workers "on the road"
> using dial up
> > access.
> >
> > This TechBit describes setup and initial test results from a test of
> > Terminal server / FileMaker Server configuration which was built using
> > existing hardware.  Both the Terminal Server and the FM Server were
> > installed on non-server grade computers located in the TechRocks Montana
> > office.  Remote users were located in California, Maine and
> Pennsylvania.
> >
> > While the test "servers" met the minimum CPU and Memory requirements for
> > Terminal Server and FileMaker Server, the test hardware was not
> ideal for
> > the use. Fast-wide SCSI drives and other obvious hardware and software
> > changes could be expected to substantially improve performance and
> > reliability.
> >
> > What this test does show is that even running on low cost
> non-server grade
> > hardware, Terminal Server could be used to provide fast secure
> remote access
> > to a number of shared office programs both FileMaker hosted and
> otherwise.
> >
> > Windows 2000 Server was installed and Terminal Services configured on a
> > desktop grade PC with one IDE hard drive partitioned to give a
> Primary drive
> > of 1.9 GB and a Secondary Drive of 7.4 GB.
> >
> > FileMaker 5.03 was installed to "Programs\FileMaker" directory on the
> > Secondary Drive from a multi-user network "site license" FM
> install disk.
> > Note: Standard consumer install disks do ID checking and would need a
> > separate install in separate directories for each user.
> >
> > FileMaker Plug-ins were installed on the Secondary Drive in the
> > "\Programs\FileMaker\FileMaker Pro 5\System" Directory.
> >
> > Each Individual user has individual logon name and ID. User
> "personality"
> > and directories are saved on the Secondary drive under the
> "Documents and
> > Settings" directory. Local single user FileMaker database files
> are placed
> > in each users "My Documents" directory.
> >
> > Each individual user account needs to have email configured at least for
> > outgoing SMTP through a supported email program for ebase email
> features to
> > work.
> >
> > Remote users Using Win 2000 were configured for remote access
> by running a
> > simple two floppy disk install process and filling in the IP
> address of the
> > Terminal Server.
> >
> > Printing to the remote users local printers required no
> additional setup.
> >
> > Install Notes:
> > .       Remote users should exit a TS session using the TS
> session "Start" menu
> > "Shut Down" dialog and be configured in TS to exit the session
> after logging
> > off rather than leave the session running when off line.
> > .       Win2000 assigns access permissions to individual files.
> After placing a
> > third party FileMaker plug-in the FileMaker System directory, the access
> > permissions for that file will default to the installer only. Check and
> > reset permission to allow other users to "see" third party plug-in.
> >
> > Performance:
> >
> > .       Login and connection from Win2000 to Terminal Server
> over a standard home
> > DSL line was "Just like being there" regarding the speed of loading and
> > running programs resident on the Terminal server.
> > .       Performance from a remote client through an 56k dial-up
> internet account
> > is almost exactly the same as DSL. This is a real plus for regular or
> > occasional dial-up users.
> > .       Access and use of FileMaker Server based files from TS
> sessions was
> > equivalent in performance to accessing the same files from a single user
> > machine on the local LAN.
> > .       Multiple remote TS clients performing the same
> FileMaker task on the same
> > FM Server hosted database at the same time saw no substantial
> performance
> > difference vs. a single user.
> > .     Users using Windows emulations on MACs to access terminal
> server have
> > had timeouts, possably due to limitations of the emulation.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Clif Graves, Programmer
> > TechRocks
> > 74 Narrows Pond Road
> > Winthrop ME 04364
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > eFax: 425.790.2058                   Web: http://www.techrocks.org
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> --
> Tom
> Tom R. Childers
> Joy of Sports Foundation
> 703-619-0037, fax-703-619-0038
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