I am also interested in ebase training in the Colorado area. Tawlys Tonso Eagle Valley Land Trust Preserving our Western Heritage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- From: TechRocks Support digest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:01 PM To: support digest recipients Subject: support digest: March 25, 2002 TechRocks ebase Support list digest ----------------------------------- SUPPORT Digest for Monday, March 25, 2002. 1. RE: Access priviledge problem 2. RE: Access priviledge problem 3. RE: support digest: March 22, 2002 4. Looking for users in Ottawa Canada 5. Re: Looking for users in Ottawa Canada 6. Re: support digest: March 24, 2002 7. FMPro 'cleaning up unused blocks' 8. RE: FMPro 'cleaning up unused blocks' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Access priviledge problem From: "Bogue, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:50:10 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Carl, It seems to me that, since FMP3 and FMP4 use the same file format, that it could be dangerous for both to be available. Since, as Dave has already confirmed, there is more functionality available in v4, I can think of no reason to retain v3 on any computers (other than v3 Server, if it's used). Seems like removing all the v3 copies should clear things up and prevent future problems. Gary > Subject: Access priviledge problem > From: Carl Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:13:09 -0500 > X-Message-Number: 4 > > I'm working with a group whose database isn't letting them access > administrative functions. The problem is that the script (514a and b) > which check to confirm what password the user is logged on under doesn't > reference the <<Status (Current Groups)>> function. (It shows as Status > (<<unknown>>). In fact, that function isn't available in the > Scriptmaker list of status functions, though other status functions are > available. This status function is also absent when creating new files, > so it appears to be related to FMP and not just ebase. > > This problem occured after an optimization of the hard drive, and I know > that this group has copies of both FMP3 and 4 on their machine. I'm > wondering if this could be a problem related to FMP3. Is the Status > (Current Groups) function a part of FMP3? Is there another problem that > could cause this? > > BTW, groups and passwords in ebase all appear to be correct. > > Carl Paulsen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Access priviledge problem From: John Atkeison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:57:43 -0500 X-Message-Number: 2 --=====================_2755768==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed And also remember that FileMaker has a tendency to sometimes remember files at the most inconvenient times 8-) It is good hygiene to have only one version on a system at a time. John At 08:50 AM 3/25/02, Bogue, Gary wrote: >Carl, > >It seems to me that, since FMP3 and FMP4 use the same file format, that it >could be dangerous for both to be available. Since, as Dave has already >confirmed, there is more functionality available in v4, I can think of no >reason to retain v3 on any computers (other than v3 Server, if it's used). >Seems like removing all the v3 copies should clear things up and prevent >future problems. > >Gary > > > Subject: Access priviledge problem > > From: Carl Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:13:09 -0500 > > X-Message-Number: 4 > > > > I'm working with a group whose database isn't letting them access > > administrative functions. The problem is that the script (514a and b) > > which check to confirm what password the user is logged on under doesn't > > reference the <<Status (Current Groups)>> function. (It shows as Status > > (<<unknown>>). In fact, that function isn't available in the > > Scriptmaker list of status functions, though other status functions are > > available. This status function is also absent when creating new files, > > so it appears to be related to FMP and not just ebase. > > > > This problem occured after an optimization of the hard drive, and I know > > that this group has copies of both FMP3 and 4 on their machine. I'm > > wondering if this could be a problem related to FMP3. Is the Status > > (Current Groups) function a part of FMP3? Is there another problem that > > could cause this? > > > > BTW, groups and passwords in ebase all appear to be correct. > > > > Carl Paulsen > > > >------------------ >Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to >http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the >email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org >--------------------------------------------------------------------- John Atkeison [EMAIL PROTECTED] (302) 888-1979 (610) 952-2727 CLIMATE ACTION THEATRE The mission of Climate Action Theatre (CAT) is to educate the public about global climate change through science-based dramatic presentations to groups. CAT encourages audiences to take action to arrest global climate change. To volunteer in ANY capacity, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (302) 888-1979 or (610) 952-2727. --=====================_2755768==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> And also remember that FileMaker has a tendency to sometimes remember files at the most inconvenient times 8-)<br> It is good hygiene to have only one version on a system at a time.<br> John<br><br> At 08:50 AM 3/25/02, Bogue, Gary wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>Carl,<br><br> It seems to me that, since FMP3 and FMP4 use the same file format, that it<br> could be dangerous for both to be available. Since, as Dave has already<br> confirmed, there is more functionality available in v4, I can think of no<br> reason to retain v3 on any computers (other than v3 Server, if it's used).<br> Seems like removing all the v3 copies should clear things up and prevent<br> future problems.<br><br> Gary<br><br> > Subject: Access priviledge problem<br> > From: Carl Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br> > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:13:09 -0500<br> > X-Message-Number: 4<br> > <br> > I'm working with a group whose database isn't letting them access<br> > administrative functions. The problem is that the script (514a and b)<br> > which check to confirm what password the user is logged on under doesn't<br> > reference the <<Status (Current Groups)>> function. (It shows as Status<br> > (<<unknown>>). In fact, that function isn't available in the<br> > Scriptmaker list of status functions, though other status functions are<br> > available. This status function is also absent when creating new files,<br> > so it appears to be related to FMP and not just ebase.<br> > <br> > This problem occured after an optimization of the hard drive, and I know<br> > that this group has copies of both FMP3 and 4 on their machine. I'm<br> > wondering if this could be a problem related to FMP3. Is the Status<br> > (Current Groups) function a part of FMP3? Is there another problem that<br> > could cause this?<br> > <br> > BTW, groups and passwords in ebase all appear to be correct.<br> > <br> > Carl Paulsen<br> > <br><br> ------------------ <br> Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to<br> <a href=3D"http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=3Dsupport=A0"; e= udora=3D"autourl">http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=3Dsu ppor= t </a> and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br><br> To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, <a href=3D"http://www.ebase.org/"= eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.ebase.org</a><br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------</b lock= quote><br> <font face=3D"Courier New, Courier">John Atkeison <br> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <br> (302) 888-1979<br> (610) 952-2727 <br> </font><b>CLIMATE ACTION THEATRE<br> </b><font face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica">The mission of Climate Action Theatre (CAT) is to educate the public about global climate change through science-based dramatic presentations to groups. CAT encourages audiences to take action to arrest global climate change. To volunteer in ANY capacity, email</font><font face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica" color=3D"#008000"> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</font><font face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica"> or call (</font><font face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica" color=3D"#008000">302</font><fon= t face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica">) 888-1979 or (</font><font face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica" color=3D"#008000">610</font><fon= t face=3D"Helvetica, Helvetica">) 952-2727.</font></html> --=====================_2755768==_.ALT-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: support digest: March 22, 2002 From: "Tawlys Tonso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:48:16 -0700 X-Message-Number: 3 Please add me to your list of organizations in Colorado that would like to receive 2.0 training. Tawlys Tonso Eagle Valley Land Trust Preserving our Western Heritage -----Original Message----- From: TechRocks Support digest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:00 PM To: support digest recipients Subject: support digest: March 22, 2002 TechRocks ebase Support list digest ----------------------------------- SUPPORT Digest for Friday, March 22, 2002. 1. Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) 2. Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) 3. Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) 4. Access priviledge problem 5. Printing letters one-at-a-time 6. V1 Sorts capacity for "Users" 7. Re: Printing letters one-at-a-time 8. Re: V1 Sorts capacity for "Users" 9. Re: Access priviledge problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) From: "Michele Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:49:55 -0700 X-Message-Number: 1 I'm also interested in a Colorado/Four Corners area training. Michele Simpson, Assistant Director Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory Post Office Box 519 Crested Butte, CO 81224 970-349-7231 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rmbl.org ----- Original Message ----- From: High Country Citizens Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TechRocks Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > And how about Colorado/Four Corners? > > Wendy McDermott > Outreach and Administrative Director > High Country Citizens' Alliance > P.O. Box 1066 > Crested Butte, CO 81224 > 970 349 7104 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Hynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:20 PM > To: TechRocks Support > Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > > > How about the Midwest? We could use a couple of trainings too. > > -- > Beth Hynes > Parks & Trails Council of Minnesota > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the > email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) From: "Eric Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:48:46 -0700 X-Message-Number: 2 A 2.0 training would also be of interest to me, and I'd guess a few others in the environmental nonprofit community, if there's a chance we might do one in the region at some point in the future. -- Eric Johnson Colorado Environmental Coalition -----Original Message----- From: Michele Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 AM To: TechRocks Support Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) I'm also interested in a Colorado/Four Corners area training. Michele Simpson, Assistant Director Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory Post Office Box 519 Crested Butte, CO 81224 970-349-7231 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rmbl.org ----- Original Message ----- From: High Country Citizens Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TechRocks Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > And how about Colorado/Four Corners? > > Wendy McDermott > Outreach and Administrative Director > High Country Citizens' Alliance > P.O. Box 1066 > Crested Butte, CO 81224 > 970 349 7104 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Hynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:20 PM > To: TechRocks Support > Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > > > How about the Midwest? We could use a couple of trainings too. > > -- > Beth Hynes > Parks & Trails Council of Minnesota > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the > email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) From: Karole Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:05:19 -0800 X-Message-Number: 3 on 3/22/02 8:48 AM, Eric Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A 2.0 training would also be of interest to me, and I'd guess a few others > in the environmental nonprofit community, if there's a chance we might do > one in the region at some point in the future. > > -- Eric Johnson > Colorado Environmental Coalition > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michele Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 AM > To: TechRocks Support > Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > > > I'm also interested in a Colorado/Four Corners area training. > > > Michele Simpson, Assistant Director > Rocky Mountain Biological Laboratory > Post Office Box 519 > Crested Butte, CO 81224 > 970-349-7231 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.rmbl.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: High Country Citizens Alliance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: TechRocks Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:30 AM > Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) > > >> And how about Colorado/Four Corners? >> >> Wendy McDermott >> Outreach and Administrative Director >> High Country Citizens' Alliance >> P.O. Box 1066 >> Crested Butte, CO 81224 >> 970 349 7104 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Beth Hynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 4:20 PM >> To: TechRocks Support >> Subject: [support] Re: upcoming ebase trainings (v1 and 2.0) >> >> >> How about the Midwest? We could use a couple of trainings too. >> >> -- >> Beth Hynes >> Parks & Trails Council of Minnesota >> >> >> ------------------ >> Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to >> http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the >> email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> ------------------ >> Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to >> http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the > email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the > email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------ > Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to > http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email > address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm also interested in the Rocky Mountain area...Montana...Wyoming...Idaho.... Karole Lee -- Administrative Director Montana Wilderness Association Office: (406) 443-7350 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Access priviledge problem From: Carl Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:13:09 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 I'm working with a group whose database isn't letting them access administrative functions. The problem is that the script (514a and b) which check to confirm what password the user is logged on under doesn't reference the <<Status (Current Groups)>> function. (It shows as Status (<<unknown>>). In fact, that function isn't available in the Scriptmaker list of status functions, though other status functions are available. This status function is also absent when creating new files, so it appears to be related to FMP and not just ebase. This problem occured after an optimization of the hard drive, and I know that this group has copies of both FMP3 and 4 on their machine. I'm wondering if this could be a problem related to FMP3. Is the Status (Current Groups) function a part of FMP3? Is there another problem that could cause this? BTW, groups and passwords in ebase all appear to be correct. Carl Paulsen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Printing letters one-at-a-time From: Larry Bednar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:39:21 -0800 X-Message-Number: 5 Is there a way to use the standard Ebase V1.0.3 letter output functions, but to print one letter at a time, only? (My superficial look seems to indicate that the procedures assume an entire found set will be processed at one swipe.) Thanks much. ************************************************************** Larry F. Bednar Consulting in Statistics, Quality, Data Managment Portland, OR 503.493.8542 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: V1 Sorts capacity for "Users" From: Larry Bednar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:42:26 -0800 X-Message-Number: 6 I'm working with an organization that really wants to use sorts frequently, V1.0.3 seems to prevent the "User" password from doing sorts. I hate to have users routinely logging in with more powerful passwords just to be able to sort, so I am considering providing this capacity to the "user" password. For you experienced users and developers out there: What are the reasons that a "user" should NOT be allowed to do SORT operations? Thanks much. ************************************************************** Larry F. Bednar Consulting in Statistics, Quality, Data Managment Portland, OR 503.493.8542 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Printing letters one-at-a-time From: Dave Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:08:27 -0800 X-Message-Number: 7 >Is there a way to use the standard Ebase V1.0.3 letter output >functions, but to print one letter at a time, only? > >(My superficial look seems to indicate that the procedures assume an >entire found set will be processed at one swipe.) > FileMaker operations typically affect the found set. A couple of workarounds would be to find each record you want to print individually, and second, to print page 1, then print page 2 only, etc., -- -- Dave Shaw H4 Consulting tel: 206-954-7526 fax: 206-625-1338 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: V1 Sorts capacity for "Users" From: Dave Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:11:54 -0800 X-Message-Number: 8 >I'm working with an organization that really wants to use sorts >frequently, V1.0.3 seems to prevent the "User" password from doing >sorts. I hate to have users routinely logging in with more powerful >passwords just to be able to sort, so I am considering providing >this capacity to the "user" password. > >For you experienced users and developers out there: What are the >reasons that a "user" should NOT be allowed to do SORT operations? > The user level password blocks the user from the Records menu, but a script named Sort appears in the Scripts menu in each file, which should do what you need. -- -- Dave Shaw H4 Consulting tel: 206-954-7526 fax: 206-625-1338 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Access priviledge problem From: Dave Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:16:55 -0800 X-Message-Number: 9 >I'm working with a group whose database isn't letting them access >administrative functions. The problem is that the script (514a and b) >which check to confirm what password the user is logged on under doesn't >reference the <<Status (Current Groups)>> function. (It shows as Status >(<<unknown>>). In fact, that function isn't available in the >Scriptmaker list of status functions, though other status functions are >available. This status function is also absent when creating new files, >so it appears to be related to FMP and not just ebase. > >This problem occured after an optimization of the hard drive, and I know >that this group has copies of both FMP3 and 4 on their machine. I'm >wondering if this could be a problem related to FMP3. Is the Status >(Current Groups) function a part of FMP3? Is there another problem that >could cause this? I got my FMP 3 and 4 manuals down off the top shelf, dusted them off, and confirmed that Status(Current Groups) is a valid function in 4, but not 3. Good bit of troubleshooting, Carl. -- -- Dave Shaw H4 Consulting tel: 206-954-7526 fax: 206-625-1338 --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to support as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Looking for users in Ottawa Canada From: Sandy Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:12:12 -0500 X-Message-Number: 4 Greetings I live in Ottawa Canada. I am looking to talk to any organizations in Ottawa using E-Base about how they are using the product. I am the Chair for a small Charity and wish to see how well it might work for us. TIA Sandy Shaw Chair MESH Ottawa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Looking for users in Ottawa Canada From: "Hassan Syed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:55:00 +0000 X-Message-Number: 5 Hi Please call 613-288-2222, its Xintra Computer College, Ottawa. I had installed this software for the college and it works well, it has a few bugs but they can be removed with a little support from the company. best of luck Cheers Hassan I Syed B.Sc,B.Engg,MBA MCSE+I,CCNA,CLA ISO-9000 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: support digest: March 24, 2002 From: Elsie Winne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:02:32 -0700 X-Message-Number: 6 I would be very interested in a western Colorado ebase training also. -- Elsie Winne, Outreach Coordinator Western Slope Environmental Resource Council PO Box 1612 Paonia, CO 81428 (970) 527-5307 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "TechRocks Support digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "TechRocks Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:00:05 -0600 > To: "support digest recipients" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: support digest: March 24, 2002 > > From: "TechRocks Support digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "TechRocks Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:00 PM > Subject: support digest: March 24, 2002 > > TechRocks ebase Support list digest > ----------------------------------- > SUPPORT Digest for Sunday, March 24, 2002. > > 1. ebase Training for Rocky Mountian Region > > --- > You are currently subscribed to support as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From: "Allan L. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "TechRocks Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sunday, March 24, 2002 12:04 PM > Subject: ebase Training for Rocky Mountian Region > > I and the organizations that I support with ebase: > Epileply Foundation of Colo. > Brain Injury Association of Colo. > Health SET > would also like user/admin training for ebase to occur in this region. > > Allan Green, > [EMAIL PROTECTED]++----+-------++-------+--+------+---+--+---- ++--+- > ++-++------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FMPro 'cleaning up unused blocks' From: "Eric Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:19:12 -0700 X-Message-Number: 7 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1D431.F21D7F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The last few times I've test-unzipped & test-used one of our ebase archives on an isolated machine, it's taken FMPro a couple of minutes to close out of names_.102 when I quit -- and while it waits, it displays a message about "cleaning up unused blocks". On the network, we use FMPro Server 5, but I frequently test the archives to make sure the zipfiles/ebase data aren't corrupt. Is the "cleaning unused blocks" message about a process of cleaning out ghost records, perhaps? Akin to compacting a database in Access? Trouble is, I don't know anything about us eliminating tons of names_.102 data in the recent past. Does anyone know specifically what FMPro is doing in this instance? Thanks for any info you may have to offer. Regards, Eric Johnson CEC Eric Johnson Colorado Environmental Coalition 1536 Wynkoop #5C Denver, CO 80202 Keep up with CEC news & goings-on at http://www.ourcolorado.org ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1D431.F21D7F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4913.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>The = last few times=20 I've test-unzipped & test-used one of our ebase archives on an = isolated=20 machine, it's taken FMPro a couple of minutes to close out of names_.102 = when I=20 quit -- and while it waits, it displays a message about "cleaning up = unused=20 blocks". On the network, we use FMPro Server 5, but I frequently = test the=20 archives to make sure the zipfiles/ebase data aren't=20 corrupt.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Is the = "cleaning=20 unused blocks" message about a process of cleaning out ghost = records,=20 perhaps? Akin to compacting a database in = Access?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D009330802-26032002>Trouble is, I don't=20 know anything about us eliminating tons of names_.102 data in the recent = past.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Does = anyone know=20 specifically what FMPro is doing in this instance?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Thanks = for any info=20 you may have to offer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Eric=20 Johnson</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002>CEC</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P><FONT size=3D2>Eric Johnson<BR>Colorado Environmental = Coalition<BR>1536 Wynkoop=20 #5C<BR>Denver, CO 80202<BR><BR>Keep up with CEC news & goings-on = at<BR><A=20 target=3D_blank = href=3D"http://www.ourcolorado.org/";>http://www.ourcolorado.org</A>=20 </FONT></P> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> ------------------ Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1D431.F21D7F70-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: FMPro 'cleaning up unused blocks' From: "Walter Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:14:55 -0500 X-Message-Number: 8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C1D44A.7E2E8190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is akin to what Access does. All text fields are variable length (up to 65K), so if you change an address or similar changes to records, it is likely to have to write the new version at the end leaving a hole which can get compacted. The internal data structure of FMP files is not publically documented so the above is just a guess from lots of experience implementing databases. It may be dumb enough that any change, even one for which there is room, gets moved to the end. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:19 PM To: TechRocks Support Subject: [support] FMPro 'cleaning up unused blocks' The last few times I've test-unzipped & test-used one of our ebase archives on an isolated machine, it's taken FMPro a couple of minutes to close out of names_.102 when I quit -- and while it waits, it displays a message about "cleaning up unused blocks". On the network, we use FMPro Server 5, but I frequently test the archives to make sure the zipfiles/ebase data aren't corrupt. Is the "cleaning unused blocks" message about a process of cleaning out ghost records, perhaps? Akin to compacting a database in Access? Trouble is, I don't know anything about us eliminating tons of names_.102 data in the recent past. Does anyone know specifically what FMPro is doing in this instance? Thanks for any info you may have to offer. Regards, Eric Johnson CEC Eric Johnson Colorado Environmental Coalition 1536 Wynkoop #5C Denver, CO 80202 Keep up with CEC news & goings-on at http://www.ourcolorado.org ------------------ Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------- ------------------------------ ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org ------------------------------------------------------- -------------- ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C1D44A.7E2E8190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4913.1100" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D688520903-26032002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>It is=20 akin to what Access does. All text fields are variable length (up to = 65K), so if=20 you change an address or similar changes to records, it is likely to = have to=20 write the new version at the end leaving a hole which can get compacted. = The=20 internal data structure of FMP files is not publically documented so the = above=20 is just a guess from lots of experience implementing databases. It may = be dumb=20 enough that any change, even one for which there is room, gets moved to = the=20 end.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Eric Johnson=20 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 25, 2002 = 9:19=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> TechRocks Support<BR><B>Subject:</B> [support] FMPro=20 'cleaning up unused blocks'<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>The = last few times=20 I've test-unzipped & test-used one of our ebase archives on an = isolated=20 machine, it's taken FMPro a couple of minutes to close out of = names_.102 when=20 I quit -- and while it waits, it displays a message about "cleaning up = unused=20 blocks". On the network, we use FMPro Server 5, but I frequently = test=20 the archives to make sure the zipfiles/ebase data aren't=20 corrupt.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Is = the "cleaning=20 unused blocks" message about a process of cleaning out ghost = records,=20 perhaps? Akin to compacting a database in = Access?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D009330802-26032002>Trouble is, I=20 don't know anything about us eliminating tons of names_.102 data in = the recent=20 past.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Does = anyone know=20 specifically what FMPro is doing in this instance?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D009330802-26032002>Thanks for any=20 info you may have to offer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D009330802-26032002>Eric = Johnson</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D009330802-26032002>CEC</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P><FONT size=3D2>Eric Johnson<BR>Colorado Environmental = Coalition<BR>1536=20 Wynkoop #5C<BR>Denver, CO 80202<BR><BR>Keep up with CEC news & = goings-on=20 at<BR><A target=3D_blank=20 href=3D"http://www.ourcolorado.org/";>http://www.ourcolorado.org</A> = </FONT></P> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>------------------ = Reminder to=20 each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to=20 http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=3Dsupport and enter = the email=20 address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: = [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 To unsubscribe send a blank email to = [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- = ebase -=20 Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------=20 </BLOCKQUOTE> ------------------ Reminder to each recipient: To change your list account preferences, go to http://email.sparklist.com/scripts/lyris.pl?enter=support and enter the email address you used to subscribe to the ebase support list:: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- ebase - Relationship Management for Nonprofits, http://www.ebase.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- </BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C1D44A.7E2E8190-- --- END OF DIGEST --- You are currently subscribed to support as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
