Aaron Sowry wrote:
> Ken Restivo wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 04:16:08AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
>>   
>>> Aaron Sowry wrote:
>>>     
>>>> At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, what is the difference 
>>>> between the 'Qtopia' images and the ASU images? Are the Qtopia images 
>>>> open-source?
>>>>
>>>>       
>>> ASU is the hybrid ELF/ with parts from Qtopia running on X11 environment 
>>> that Openmoko is developing.
>>>
>>> Qtopia is the phone gui that is developed by Trolltech, a Nokia Company.
>>>
>>> Qtopia is open source and released under the GPL.
>>>
>>>     
>> I think the question was: what's the difference between the Qtopia *images* 
>> and the ASU images.
>>
>> IIRC, the ASU images use X, even the Qtopia apps on the ASU image use X, but 
>> the Qtopia images do not have X, so the apps on the Qtopia image write 
>> directly to a framebuffer. So the ASU is OpenMoko's port of Trolltech's 
>> Qtopia, to run on X.
>>
>> Apps on the pure-Qtopia image have to be specially written in order to run 
>> on the Qtopia image, to deal with the frame buffer. I'd also guess that'd 
>> mean that the apps are faster, since X performs like an arthritic snail.
>>
>> I'm not sure where the Qtopia image comes from either. Does it come from 
>> Trolltech? The ASU image comes from OpenMoko.
>>
>> Because the ASU uses X, then all kinds of other apps using other toolkits 
>> (Gnome, ETK, etc.) can co-exist beside the Qtopia apps on the ASU image.
>>
>> Example: I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 (which appears to be GTK), on ASU, 
>> alongside the excellent Qtopia apps.
>>
>> There's this too: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
>>
>> -ken
>>
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> Thanks for clearing that up - I've just finished flashing my phone with 
> the Qtopia images and it's fairly slick actually, I think you're right 
> about X at least in the mobile realm.
> 
> The Qtopia image does indeed come from Trolltech, pardon me if this has 
> been discussed already but does anyone know how to install additional 
> packages on Qtopia?

There are only a few packages in the feed right now. It is only me 
compiling stuff I find, and I have other duties as well.

http://qtopia.net/packages/feed/4.3.2/neo



-- 
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company

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