Agreed topic dropped. The passive approach seems safer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Buechler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Diagnostics: DHCP leases v0.88

Frimmel, Ivan (ISS South Africa) wrote:

>Again from IP 101(many years back so I could be wrong ) What about 
>pinging the broadcast .. This should highlight some less talkative ips 
>on the local subnet ? And localise icmp traffic .. Ideal for small 
>networks ?
>

Nope.  Most machines don't respond to pings to the broadcast address
anymore, for good reason.  The old "smurf" attack used this, amongst
other mischief, so most well-behaved network stacks won't respond to
such crap.  From some quick tests, looks like around 10-20% of network
hosts will respond, mostly printers and similar equipment. 

Pinging from the firewall, no matter how you do it, is a *bad idea*. 

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