On 10/31/05, Peter Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 16:04 -0500, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > > > > >Well... You obviously could have checked that and printed the error > > >during wizard run. > > > > dude, these guys are working their butts off, a little more civility > > would be appreciated, i'm sure. > > Sorry. I did not meant to offend anyone. It is just my answer to > "nothing can be done" point.
I do find that offensive, we "obviously" could have done alot, the first of which is not release fixes quickly. Certainly if we made money off this product I wouldn't release an update until it had been fully tested. pfSense isn't commercial, so the cost of doing business is that YOU get to test it. My favorite saying goes like this: "With open source, the vendor is you", I take it to heart every time I choose an open source product. I decide how much time _I'm_ willing to spend supporting it, if I'm not, then I'd rather just pay for a commercial product so I don't have to deal with the heartache. > I have limited time to spend on pfSense - I need to make it up and > running. I've already found workarounds for most of my problems. > I could just keep my findings for myself or I could have them reported > with some fix ideas suggested. We have limited time also. I'm in the middle of a move and am the primary developer for the shaper. I know it sucks, I know it has bugs, I also know that pfSense is an alpha product. I expect bugs, I'm not surprised when I find them. > I know providing the patch is best of all but I currently can't do it - > I still however would like to help making pfsense better - which is what > i think i'm doing by reporting the problems :) Your attitude obviously comes from having to deploy a product that's not ready to be deployed in a production environment in the manner which you are attempting to deploy it. While pfSense is deployed in prod environments and there are a couple very stable configurations, it is alpha, we aren't marking it beta yet for reasons outside the OS. When someone can go through the interface and find 6 bugs in 5 minutes, it's not ready for beta. --Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
