Im still trying to track this issue down. I have one of the two new nodes up finally without blowing up the network. I re-arranged VHIDs on all PFSense servers on the network so they are unique and that did the trick for one out of two. Still bringing the second server up to pair up with carp, it shuts down one segment of my wireless network. There are 2 PFSense servers on the hard wire over there. One is a bridge and does not use carp. One is a traditional NAT firewall without carp as well. There might be a few customers we have recommended PFSense too over there but I doubt any of them use carp (intentionally).

I read a post about PFSense becoming unresponsive after adding carp ips.This is what happens during the outage. The console freezes for 4-5 minutes on that last PFSense server Im trying to bring up. In another post it was mentioned that although you can set pfsync to sync over a certain interface, carp multicast is sent out over any interface that has a carp ip assigned to it. We use Motorola Canopy for pretty much the entire wireless network. In the past, we had huge outages do to multicast floods. We had to filter out all multicast on every customer modem to stop it. So I know we have some sort of an outstanding issue with multicast over the Canopy network that maybe this is related to.

My questions:
1.) Under status - carp - I see a list of pfsync nodes. I was able to determine one of the listed "nodes" was a pfsense firewall with CARP enabled. However, the other 4-5 listed, I cannot match up with any of my MAC's. Are these node "ID's" randomly made up becuase of the virtual carp ips? Some of my PFSense servers have 30+ pfsense nodes listed.

2.) Being that it looks like Im still conflicting somehow with my own PFSense servers AND possibly current and future subscribers, is there a way to block carp broadcasts all together per node with the exception of each master's partner? I entered a block rule on every interface of one pfsense server (whose slave is turned off) Protocal = carp source/destination * and yet it still sees other pfsync nodes in the carp status. I dont see anything in the firewall logs for related drops.

3.) Also in one of the posts, Bills suggestion to the unresponsive server was to make sure carp IPs added were within the firewalls subnet. I can confirm that too (especially since this version wont allow you to accidentially enter one out of its WAN/LAN range). BUT, I do have 2 backbone carriers terminating into the same switch for ALL of my PFSense WAN interfaces and second WAN interfaces. Is this a problem?

Any help is very appreciated. I know very little about multicast and the guts of carp.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Marquette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Many CARP servers in seperate groups


On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<SNIP>
Do VHIDs have to be unuique per IP on the same physical wire to avoid
conflicts with other CARP servers? We had similar floods when we first setup Pair1 to carp sync on LAN. It was flooding certain linksys and belkin WAPs
out on subscriber sites. We switched it to sync to WAN and the issue went
away.

The CARP vhid dictates it's MAC address.  You can only have a given
VHID on one Layer 2 segment (and depending on the switch, on one
switch if it can't handle identical MACs on multiple ports even if
they are on different VLANs).

--Bill

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