Alright.  I got it.  Thanks to all that responded.  There were a couple of
duplicate rules in the rules table from the automatically entered rules
and from me deleting and re-adding, etc.  I deleted all references to DNS
from the NAT tables and the Rules tables and then re-created them all. 
They work fine.

Thanks to all who responded.

--Curtis

>
> On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:24 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
>
>> I have a DNS server behind a pfsense box.  The dns forwarder is enabled
>> (I've tried disabling it.)
>>
>> Without the forwarder, dns queries from behind the pfsense box don't
>> resolve, not ever.
>> With the forwarder dns queries resolve and the active directory works
>> fine as the windows servers forward all their queries to the pfsense box
>> and they are handled.
>>
>> My problem is that there is an unrelated dns server behind the pfsense
>> machine that needs to answer to the outside world.  I set up a virtual
>> ip address (tried it all three ways) and set up a NAT rule to forward
>> TCP/UDP on port 53 DNS to the server inside.  TCP queries work, but UDP
>> queries time out against the virtual address, but work fine on actual
>> address.  Have I run into something.
>>
>> WanIP forwarded to inside server works both tcp and udp.
>> Virtual IP forwarded to inside server works tcp
>> Virtual  IP forwarded to inside server fails udp.
>>
>> Most dns queries are udp except for dnssec, dkim and spf.
>
> Corresponding firewall rules? my internal machine is running DNS as well,
> and I allowed it to query the outside world, and works just fine
> through my pfsense box.
>
> You could also tcpdump on the pflog0 interface and see what is going on
> and what is getting blocked..
>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> I'm running a 1.2.3-RELEASE built nearly a year ago.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Curtis
>>
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