afceier wrote:
Two major things i noticed with this release:
1. smaller icons in the buddy list.
I personally don't mind this too much. But i can bet my left arm that some people with bad eye sight will be annoyed by this.

2. The removal of the _option_ to resize the text window.
I thought first this was a bug, and wanted to confirm it on irc. I got it confirmed that it was fully intended. Then I got a hostile feeling since i didn't like the removal. For me the main problem is that the whole IM window doesn't feel "right". Something is wrong, and for me it is!


That youre getting more features into the program is great. But that you're removing the old once cause you personally like the new once best is kinda lame. Why not make it an option? Why I and others like the old visual better doesn't really matter. We are all different and we have different taste. I don't see why giving us the options to choose is bad? And when i asked why you didn't make these features/changes as options. Things got hostile.

I read the mail archive and other have had the same opinion as myself and has gotten the same hostile attitude. They have to explain why they like the old pre-change better. They have to actually explain their TASTE! When instead of pressure the user into something new you could just add the option for the "new/old"

We made a change we thought would work better. The other thread has thus far been constructive feedback with helpful explanations and cases made for why our idea of how we thought Pidgin was best used are not sufficiently inclusive. Your response however is not constructive, is particularly critical, and does not add anything to a discussion we've already had.

There was no reason to start a separate thread about it, for about the 8th time when there's already one going on. At the very least, why didn't you contribute this as a part of that thread?

I see virtually no hostility in the thread titled "Please change the 2.4.0 input field's resize behaviour" because almost all of the discussion has been constructive and we're seriously considering what these people had to say.

And when all is said and done. The user get in the face: Its open source, make the changes yourself *case closed*. When most users don't have the ability/skill to do so. Yes no one has had to pay you for the software, but even so you're not making it for yourself alone, cause then i and others wouldn't be using it as i write this.

This is what we've referred to as "Free Software User Entitlement Syndrome." We don't produce Pidgin specifically for users, we produce it as developers to meet our needs with the hope it will be useful to others. If you don't like the way the project is going, you have a responsibility to contribute toward making the software more to your liking. If you can't or won't, we will certainly consider what you have to say, but if you are going to simply argue that we should do everything everyone tells us and never change, you're not going to win anyone over and you're just rehashing the same useless argument we've heard before.

Yes, we recognize that the changes with the input box were not well received and we are considering how to resolve this, but only those providing constructive feedback and suggestions get the opportunity to help us decide what to do.

Kevin

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