----- Original Message -----
| From: "Matthias Apitz" <g...@unixarea.de>
| To: "Richard Vickery" <r...@sfu.ca>
| Cc: "Javid Java" <javidjava2...@gmail.com>, support@pidgin.im
| Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2015 10:14:54
| Subject: Re: add telegram to pidgin
| 
| El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 08:55:30AM -0700, Richard Vickery
| escribió:
| 
| > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the TELUS network.
| >   Original Message
| > From: Matthias Apitz
| > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 08:28
| > To: Richard Vickery
| > Reply To: Matthias Apitz
| > Cc: Matthias Apitz; Javid Java; support@pidgin.im
| > Subject: Re: add telegram to pidgin
| > 
| > El día Tuesday, August 18, 2015 a las 07:40:51AM -0700, Richard Vickery
| > escribió:
| > 
| > > One of the great benefits of BlackBerry Messenger is that‎ you can notice
| > > that your contact is online and has read your message; else how do you
| > > really communicate?
| > 
| > this is the same violation of privacy; and to answer your question: I
| > send a msg/mail and wait for the answer;
| > 
| > imagine tomorrow you will get a voice call, which you do not want to
| > pick up for whatever reason, and the provider says to the caller: we let
| > it ring and we know the person heared it, but the person did not wante
| > to answer the call; is this what you want?
| > 
| > 
| > --
| > Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎
| > +49-176-38902045
| > No! Nein! ¡No! Όχι! -- Ευχαριστούμε!
| > 
| > It's only my personal contacts that can ‎see whether I'm online, and
| > crackers that care. If you want the anonymity you speak of, get rid of
| > your computer or its Internet-connection components. Else your "privacy"
| > is a farce; there is no such thing
| 
| Your BB email app is as broken as it violates privacy. Look, it puts
| your message below my signature which let your message appear as my
| text. ¡Qie asco!
| 
| Your statement above about contacts/privacy is nonsense. Imagine your
| boss calls (and is in your contacts) and the provider says to him: your
| employee does not pick up the call. Do you want this?
| 
|       matthias
| --
| Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/  ☎
| +49-176-38902045
| No! Nein! ¡No! Όχι! -- Ευχαριστούμε!
| 

BlackBerry makes THE most secure devices on the market. It violates no such 
privacy. If you don't want an employer knowing if you are online, don't add to, 
or if added, delete from, your contacts. And if you don't want to talk to them, 
don't pick up the phone. I assume, but have no knowledge of the telegram add-on.

At least give me an intelligent argument, not this stuff advertising that you 
have little knowledge the topic of which you write.

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