Sorry, ... but: No.
It would be useful if people replied to the points posted, and not to what they wished people (seeming, regarded as opponents;-(> had said. Michael > On 22/09/2011 15:32, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:31:40PM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote: >>> On 22/09/2011 00:52, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >>> .. >>>> >>>> The only point I wanted to make is that the very concept of >>>> 'property', >>>> of 'owning' things makes sense only if it is recognised by others - >>>> it is a social agreement and not a law of nature. >> >> >>> Well, lets look at that a bit more closely. >>> ... >> >> Again, I never wrote any of 'Information wants to be free', 'I want it >> herefore it is right', etc, I did not interpret Darwin, and I'm not >> stating any moral imperatives. >> >> So please stop blaming me for what may be some people's ideas or errors >> but certainly not mine. >> >> Ciao, >> > > It's a discussion. Relevant since there is an interest in the principles > and problems of intellectual property (or whatever else we call it) on > this list - to say nothing of the broader issues around free v > commercial, the GPL, etc. Ultimately, ~all~ arguments not purely about > hard facts hinge on the conflict between moral imperatives, and draw on > rhetorical techniques to present them. I am not accusing or blaming > anyone here. This is a very general issue. But the words "social > agreement" inherently imply an imperative of some kind - the idea that > ownership is relative or sanctioned, rather that absolute (if only in > the sense that breaking the agreement might be judged under another > imperative, or justified by it). I give simple examples to illustrate > and clarify. These things are present in the words, whether we like it > or not, intentional or not, and we ~all~ call upon them frequently, one > way or another, perhaps the the more so the more "political" we are. > Topics just on this list have included copyright, DRM and watermarking, > as well as patents, and I have surely perpetrated quite a few moral > imperatives myself, in unguarded moments! > > Richard Dobson > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound > _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
