There is a plugin for Firefox called firebug - it might show you the
file being requested by the browser.

Ian
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of etienne deleflie
Sent: 01 December 2011 22:41
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release: HTML5 test

Hi Mick,

If you are talking about this page:
http://soundofspace.com/static/test_html5.html

then all feeds are 5.1 .... if you are hearing stereo it is your browser
that has decided to interpret the 5.1 feed as stereo. Any settings for
that would be browser side.

But to find out which of the three files the browser has chosen to use
is difficult. On Firefox 8, I can right click on the player and do 'copy
audio location' .... (the file is the ogg one). This doesn't work on
Safari...
not sure about Explorer

good question though .... there must be a way.

Etienne


On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM, mick ritchie <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Etienne -
>
> I can play back stereo from your player in firefox3 and Safari but not

> 5.1
> - my
> 5.1 box doesnt see dolby digital just stereo.  Is there any way of 
> telling which feed my browser accesses?
>
> mick
>
> On 29 Nov 2011, at 23:51, etienne deleflie wrote:
>
>  Hi Fabio,
>>
>> Worked fine with Safari and Mac OSX.
>>
>>> I tried using jack. It immediately showed the 6 channel web process 
>>> in the routing window!
>>> Also without jack it directly played back.
>>>
>>> Could you give some background on the HTML5 implementation or on how

>>> you realized this?
>>>
>>>
>> its simple. One of HTML5's advantages is that it is the browser that 
>> supplies the media players. This means less need for 3rd party media 
>> players like Flash / Quicktime / VLC etc. That means less barriers to

>> entry .. which means there is a growing chance that more people will 
>> 'just hear'
>> 5.1 coming out of their connected speakers (if they have them 
>> connected to a 5.1 card).
>>
>> Here is what the HTML5 code looks like (<audio> is an HTML5 tag):
>>
>> <audio controls="controls">
>>  <source src="someAACFile.m4a"    type="audio/mp4" />
>>  <source src="someVorbisFile.ogg" type="audio/ogg" />
>>  <source src="someAC3File.ac3"    type="audio/ac3" />
>>
>> Looks like your browser does not support HTML 5.
>> Non HTML5 code would go here. Perhaps a quicktime plugin for the old 
>> browsers.
>>
>> </audio>
>>
>> The browser chooses whichever one it can play, and supplies the media

>> player. And that seems to be:
>>
>> IE9 + : AAC
>> Safari: AAC
>> Chrome: AAC / Vorbis
>> Firefox 8+: none of them, but if you have VLC installed it will have 
>> a go at OGG and perhaps AC3 opened in VLC.
>>
>> It is Firefox that fails us here. Firefox can play Vorbis files, but 
>> not multichannel ones.
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Fabio
>>>
>>> Am 27.11.2011 um 05:08 schrieb etienne deleflie:
>>>
>>>  I've been meaning to try out HTML5's capabilities for a while, now 
>>> seems
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> good time.
>>>>
>>>> http://soundofspace.com/**static/test_html5.html<http://soundofspac
>>>> e.com/static/test_html5.html>
>>>>
>>>> This page hosts an (ambisonicaly decoded) 5.1 file in AAC and AC3
....
>>>> using HTML5 the browser should automatically choose the one it can
>>>>
>>> support.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> InternetExplorer 9 supports AAC, so does Safari and so does Chrome.

>>>> So
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> covers around 50% of browsers. BUT ... it also covers the two main
OSes.
>>>>
>>>> Firefox is the other 50% ... and that means Ogg ... not sure if 
>>>> firefox supports AC3 but I dont think it does.
>>>>
>>>> The only question is whether or not the Browser can successfully 
>>>> stream
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> 5.1 channels to the sound card connected to multiple speakers.
>>>>
>>>> ... any reports of success or failure would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Etienne
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