On 13 Apr 2012, at 10:07, Jörn Nettingsmeier <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On 04/13/2012 03:49 AM, Robert Greene wrote:
>> 
>> While the mode of expression is even more emphatic
>> than my own, RCFA is to my mind right all up
>> and down the line. Talking about 3rd order is
>> just castles in the air. As a theoretical mathematician,
>> I spend most of my life building castles in the air.
>> But one ought to know that that is what they are!
> 
> you know, for every email you guys write about this tired old topic, i have 
> _set up_ and _calibrated_ a higher order ambisonic system, and believe me, 
> that's way more exciting.

Exciting in the same way as people spending massive amounts of money on speaker 
wire and listening to the same recording over and over to decide if the CD 
player sounds better with a magic brick on top, or without....

> can you please stick your heads out the window eventually? it's 2012, 
> bandwidth is ridiculously cheap, storage even more so [1]. there is 
> absolutely no valid argument to be made against very high orders indeed for 
> production and archival. get it in your heads that there is a difference 
> between what the consumer uses and what the production format is. this is 
> what ambisonics is all about: scalability. you get to keep your meridians and 
> your four quad speakers, and everyone can just live happily ever after.

None of that matters:

- there are globally speaking between zero and none studios that even 
understand the concept of higher order ambisonics
- there are between zero and no artists who ask for their works to be produced 
in HOA
- there are between zero and none record labels that will pay the extra expense 
for a HOA production.

So who cares about bandwidth and storage? But even if these other issues were 
moot, bandwidth and storage remain at a premium, because my iPad holds only 
64GB, and the iPhone's music download over 3G or 4G has a rather hefty price 
tag.

The reality of music, in 2012, isn't a desktop computer with cheap hard drives 
attached to it, that's so 90s, its a wireless, low-power portable device with 
expensive SSD storage and expensive always-connected wireless networking.

So yes, even despite all the other cost factors and hurdles that speak against 
a system of the complexity of HOA, bandwidth and storage still matter, or 
should I say, matter again?

Ronald
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