Hello Dave,

I really appreciate your commitment to the discussion.
I have almost finished patching the delay fx using G. Wakefield soundfield
rotation abstraction.

I have to admit that I am planning to use "in phase" decoder weights as I
will be dealing with a large audience even if I use 3rd order.
So at this point I am thinking if this can be done for the delay.

I have read both Daniel thesis and Wakefield paper and I agree it is
confusing.

If anyone knows more about wakefield weights, an answer will be much
apreciated,

I will try to send him an email and see if he answers

thank you for discussing about the problem.

Sero


On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:05:30 +0100
> From: Dave Malham <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] B- Format to A-format conversion for an
>        ambisonics fx (SERO SERO)
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> Graham states in his 2006 ICMC paper
> (http://www.mat.ucsb.edu/~wakefield/pubs/06_Wakefield_ICMC_HOAMax.pdf)
> that
>
> "Beneficially, both the ICST externals and those described in this
> paper can be used together within the same application."
>
> However, he also states
>
> "Several different encoding conventions exist to scale Ambisonic
> signals at various orders. The original B-Format definition specified
> a scalar of ?2 for the W channel, while the Furse-Malham set (Malham
> 1999) scales second-order signals to achieve normalized values in the
> Ambisonic domain, and Daniel (2000) specified up to third order
> without normalizing weights except for the original ?2 W channel. In
> the presented Max/MSP externals the author opted to employ the same
> convention as presented by Daniel (2000)"
>
> which is a little confusing since firstly the weighting of the W
> channel is actually 1/?2  and secondly Jerome Daniel states in his
> thesis that he prefers SN3D weighting and in table 3.3 on page 156 of
> the thesis he shows this as a necessary conversion factor from SN3D to
> FuMa (which is the same as original B format for W, X,Y and Z). It
> would be good if someone who has actually used the two together could
> confirm that they are indeed fully interoperable. Even if they aren't
> fully compatible out of the box, it should be easy to make them so as
> it is likely it's just a matter of channel weightings and writing a
> small subpatch to do the conversions should be easy.
>
>   Dave
>
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