yeah - we I still got some nice results - my main interest is
composition - but budgets the thing .... I think we will build a new
system soon - people have been recomending car speakers to me....


On 12/09/2012, jim moses <[email protected]> wrote:
> i've heard similar results, especially when close to the array, from some
> inexpensive speakers we used for experiments. to do better, look for
> speakers with wide and smoothly dispersed HF response and avoid horn driven
> PA sort of speakers. Of course, easier said than done when you need 16 or
> more speakers - but if that's the problem, you can at least account for it
> and continue working.
>
> jim
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Augustine Leudar
> <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> hmm that might be it - they are not the best speakers in the world !
>> the effect is not noticable if you stand more than a metre or two away
>> from the array - thats why I thought it might be to do with
>> precedence...
>>
>> On 12/09/2012, jim moses <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > the effect described could be an artifact of the speakers being used.
>> > if
>> > the speakers have have a high frequency bump at 0 degrees on axis, as
>> many
>> > do, you can get the sensation described where each speaker sort of pops
>> out
>> > of the array as you move in front of it.
>> >
>> > jim
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Fons Adriaensen
>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:17:23PM +0100, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > This is a question for those with knowledge of WFS. One of the
>> >> > properties of plane waves propagated with a single line array on a
>> >> > Wavefield synthesis system is that as you walk down the array the
>> >> > sound "follows" you appearing to emanate from the nearest
>> >> > loudspeaker
>> >> > . I was wondering if this was due to the precedence effect alone or
>> >> > if
>> >> > something else was going on as well ?
>> >>
>> >> It will be the nearest speaker only if the direction of the source
>> >> is orthogonal to the line array.
>> >>
>> >> What goes on is that the waves produced by the secondary sources
>> >> (speakers) combine into a wave as would be produced by a real
>> >> source in a particular direction and at a large distance. At
>> >> least within the bandwidth which does not produce spatial aliasing,
>> >> your ears/brain have no information at all to identify the speakers
>> >> as separate sources, so there is no precedence effect involved.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ciao,
>> >>
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