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Dave On 19 June 2013 14:18, Dave Malham <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 6 June 2013 12:35, Peter Lennox <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just a quick one (I have to get back to the altogether-more-important >> paperwork and meetings!) >> >> I regularly have student record, or fabricate, or combinations, of 'walk >> through/ride through/other journey, sometimes using SF ic sometimes >> binaural, sometimes mixtures of spot mic inserted into sound field and so >> on. >> > > Me too - and I agree with the comments. I think the reason is perceptual > as you *know* you aren't moving so that means > the perceptual model matching that we do comes up with the answer "the > sounds are moving". Some other cues need to go in - visual ? tactile? air > movements? > > Dave > > >> >> One thing that is clear is that the SF mics are very susceptible to wind >> noise, handling noise, vibration (bone conduction of the walker, even >> trolleys with suspension and pneumatic tyres on a smooth surface). >> >> But another is that it is very, very difficult to get a journey recorded >> in such a way that the eventual listener's perception is of gliding through >> a landscape. Instead, it usually feels as though key elements of the >> landscape are smoothly panned pas the stationary listening position. There >> has to be something in the soundscape that perceptually 'explains' that the >> listener is supposed to understand that they are moving through the >> environment rather than that elements of the environment are moving pas the >> perceiver, if you see what I mean >> >> ON a similar note, I had arranged, but the arrnagment fell through, to >> dangle an SF mic below a hot air balloon as we fly over the landscape. IN >> reasonably clement conditions, with a smoothly constant windspeed (no >> turbulence) the effect ought to be of moving, and there should be no wind >> noise. Since I am given to understand that sounds from the ground reach the >> balloon often without accompanied early reflections, things tend to sound >> much closer. >> I'd still like to try it, but would be interested to see (hear) whether >> one gets an impression of moving over the landscape, on listening. >> >> Cheers, back to the meeting... >> Dr. Peter Lennox >> >> School of Technology, >> Faculty of Arts, Design and Technology >> University of Derby, UK >> e: [email protected] >> t: 01332 593155 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Eric Carmichel >> Sent: 05 June 2013 21:50 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Sursound] Subsumption Architecture meets Ambisonics? >> >> Howdy (again), >> Available Ambisonic recordings are mainly of spacially-separated, >> stationary objects (e.g. musical instruments) or of a dominant moving >> object (aeroplanes, helicopters). I was wondering whether anybody has >> attached an Ambisonic microphone to a mobile device and then recorded the >> surroundings as though the mic were the moving object. If so, are such >> recordings available? Attaching an Ambisonic mic to one of Rodney Brook's >> robots and then sending it through a shopping mall could create interesting >> effects. Would the end listener get a sense of motion (thus inducing >> dizziness) or feel he/she is following a path that seems "appropriate" >> based on the echo-location of walls, people, etc. Anybody game to try? >> Eric C. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130605/b8a1e4c3/attachment.html >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Sursound mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and >> reserves the right to monitor email traffic. 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