Hi
Am I to understand that everything is OK if I use the third order plugins to 
work on my first order tetramic recording.
And then I can expect everything to be as it should if I decode just the first 
order info via a first order ambdec ?

I do not at this time expect to add any second or third order signals in to my 
projects.

As a follow up question, would it be to my advantage to have the input signals 
"converted" to third order and stay there even for the decoding 
Even if I only have a speaker rig of a circle of six horizontal  and 2 speakers 
on the floor and 2 in the ceiling.

Depending on the answer how about if I reconfigure the playback to a horizontal 
hexagonal ring of 6 and top and bottom rings of 4, the intra speaker distance 
in the 4 rings being the same as the distance between the speakers in the 
hexagon?
Does third order decode add any advantage ?

Best Regards
Bo-Erik Sandholm

-----Original Message-----
From: Sursound [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fons 
Adriaensen
Sent: den 22 november 2013 22:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sursound] New Ambisonic VST Plugins

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:19:58AM -0800, Aaron Heller wrote:

> I hate to contradict you, but my experience playing my first-order 
> recordings (e.g. Pulcinella, LvB 4th Sym, available on Ambisonia) on 
> the 2nd or 3rd order presets in Ambdec results in decoding errors.  
> The most obvious artifact is that frontal sources sound too close, 
> sometimes right in front of my face.

When using a 3rd order max rE decoder with 1st order input, the gain on the 
first order signals is too high. The error is around 2.3 dB for a 2D decoder, 
and 3.5 dB for 3D. In both cases the resulting decode is closer to systematic 
(rV = 1) than to max rE.

For an in-phase decoder the errors are higher, around 5 dB for 3D.

Ciao,

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