I have surfed around and pondered on how to create a low cost DIY multichannel 
sound outputs...

Ethernet to MADI ?? can it be done ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MADI
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.sursound/3076
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=35486.120

OR use protocol for audio over Ethernet?
http://www.supermac-hypermac.com/
Royalty-free implementations available as Xilinx FPGA cores

DIY MADI to ADAT
http://madi.webklik.nl/page/madi
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=35486.600


Use to  this to interface directly to Ethernet or a RPi or maybe USB?
http://www.xmos.com/en/startkit#D1WEaWZP


10/100 MII Ethernet MAC for XMOS microcontrollers
http://xcore.github.com/sc_ethernet/index.html
https://github.com/xcore/sc_ethernet

Modules to receive and transmit ADAT streams
http://github.xcore.com/sc_adat/
https://github.com/xcore/sc_adat

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=aa2ced904ae477361c0eabd3c51c1908&topic=96073.20
http://opencores.com/project,adat_optical_feed_forward_receiver   
Or 
http://voxcaliber.com/is-dante-the-future-no-64-channel-digital-audio-over-ethernet-is-already-here/



8 channel DAC - use 2 or 3 chips - around 100db S/N
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/data_sheets/en/WM8768.pdf 
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/dacs/WM8768/
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/misc/en/WAN0149.pdf
Layout
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/misc/en/WAN0129.pdf
Stereo DAC better data
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/documents/uploads/data_sheets/en/WM8740.pdf


http://www.cirrus.com/en/pubs/proDatasheet/CS4397_F1.pdf

USB to I2S + DAC stereo 97$
http://www.silabs.com/products/interface/Pages/CP2114-WM8523EK.aspx

Interesting DIY DAC
http://www.audiodesignguide.com/DAC_final/DacFinal.html
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4398.html  8 channels 117 db s/n

Just a few places where it might be possible to find entry point if not 
everything is to be created out of nowhere.

Bo-Erik Sandholm
Stockholm
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http://www.xmos.com/en/startkit#D1WEaWZP

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=aa2ced904ae477361c0eabd3c51c1908&topic=96073.20



-----Original Message-----
From: Sursound [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sampo Syreeni
Sent: den 14 april 2014 22:21
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Inexpensive USB multichannel sound card

On 2014-04-13, Ross Bencina wrote:

> I am ignorant of the economics, but perhaps it is worth considering an 
> FPGA-based implementation:
>
> "An FPGA-based Re-configurable 24-bit 96kHz Sigma-Delta Audio DAC"
> Ray C.C. Cheung et al.

Worth a look because I'm not *too* well educated about the economics either, 
but my hunch is, that'd prove costly overkill. 1-4 channel high quality 
converters are already available as bulk product, at very low cost (to the tune 
of well under a buck per channel). What you really need after that is just the 
interface and synch circuitry, and whatever you need on the analog side for its 
interfaces, noise-free reference voltages, stable, low-jitter clocking and 
whatnot. Something like that doesn't take high end components like tightly 
integrated FPGA's and their support circuitry, but at most tightly integrated 
opamps, fuze programmable PAL/GAL/CPLD, and the ilk.

Of course the rationale is much the same as with FPGA's -- the chip types I 
mentioned are basically just the smaller brothers of FPGA after all -- but the 
price point is much, *much* lower, in concordance with the lesser amount of 
stuff you have to implement yourself once the basic, hardest D/A stuff and even 
most of the interface logic was already bought in bulk, and since in this sort 
of an application, you really don't require reprogrammability (which takes at 
least an order of magnitude away from the cost).

Now, this is obviously just another one of my wild ideas. It's highly unlikely 
I would be in the position to try it out, at least any time soon. There's still 
a rather hefty base investment when you do something like this. But sorta, 
kinda, I believe the basic economics ought to pan out; I don't think even 
ridiculous channel counts are mainly hard today because of the cost of 
production, but because of the low demand and the amortization problems it 
causes. If so, something like this would be one helluva match with circuit 
design class projects, Kickstarter-like nerdy crowdfunding, or the kind of 
hobbyist/researcher ecosystem we have even on this list.
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