yep - I always do that David - number one - number two etc - when its me that's setting the thing up that works fine - but when your number one is the technicians number two.... thats where the fun begins :) Another thing Ive done is provide a speaker map but usually its just easier to ask what numbering system they use. then theres the front left, front right test recordings etc - but theres no agreement on what specific speaker positions should be called for larger speaker arrays either. It really would be nice if the AES could just decide on a standard .
On 19 November 2016 at 12:50, David Pickett <[email protected]> wrote: > In order to check that everything is correct, despite one's impeccable > logic in imagining a virtual transformation matrix between how one thinks > the signals should be numbered and the reality of the specific situation, I > recommend that everyone have a test recording that identifies each > channel. With this it is relatively easy to check and correct, while > avoiding total confusion. > > David > > > At 14:21 17-11-16, Peter Lennox wrote: > >I once spent two days trying to understand the mapping of a 32 > >(periphonic) speaker rig, as there were 3 different speaker numbering > >'conventions' in use, by 3 different parties: one used > >counterclockwise numbering of 'slices' - middle, top, bottom, another > >used a similar system but clockwise, and another used weird kind of > >helical 'start at the top, downwards in stripes', kind of system. Each > >party thought their system was logical and obvious, so it didn't need > >documenting. > >Trying to understand what was actually wired to what was a comical > nightmare. > > > >Dr. Peter Lennox > >Senior Lecturer in Perception > >College of Arts > >University of Derby, UK > >e: [email protected] > >t: 01332 593155 > >https://derby.academia.edu/peterlennox > >https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Lennox > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sursound [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave > Malham > >Sent: 17 November 2016 11:10 > >To: Surround Sound discussion group <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [Sursound] Speaker numbering > > > >Your second layout is what I always tended to do when I had control of > >the numbering but when working in a venue other than your own you often > don't. > >Personally, I'm not sure about "standards" for something as variable > >as a multispeaker array since I would ALWAYS want to check that they > >really, really were connected to the standard - I have been caught out > >too many times over the years :-( > > > > Dave > > > >PS Actually, I would usually check my own rig, just in case someone > >had played silly buggers with the leads since last time I used it. > >Like I said, been caught out too many times.... > > > > > >On 16 November 2016 at 22:12, Augustine Leudar <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > >> How do you number you arrays - there seems to be two ways I've come > >> across.. 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