Also, before the project, the land was a perfectly useful car park - so they sort of devalued it. As Dave said it could have been really interesting, but ended up being an exercise in spending funding. In Yorkshire and Lancashire there's a saying: "all fur coat and no knickers" - no pervy connotations, just that it's all show and no underlying substance. Ah well...
Dr. Peter Lennox Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy Senior Lecturer in Perception College of Arts University of Derby Tel: 01332 593155 ________________________________ From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Dave Malham <dave.mal...@york.ac.uk> Sent: 16 December 2016 08:40:43 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Sound Art gallery South London Add to that a space for performance with no dressing rooms, an Ambisonic rig where the architect didn't like the position of the lower speakers and had them raised up to almost ear height without first talking to any of the sound guys, an exhibition space that was dressed by a company who specialised in......stage sets....you know, the ones where you don't have to worry about what things look like when people are close up....Argh, so many bad memories have been drug up by this thread :-( It could have been brilliant as the original concept was excellent but, ah well..... Dave PS for those of you off-shore, Peter's comment about the "National Car Park for Popular Music" refers to the fact the UK's largest chain of private car parks is called National Car Parks or NCP. Unfortunately, somebody (no names, no pack drill) spotted the close resemblance to NCPM and once the words were said, they stuck..... On 15 December 2016 at 21:28, Peter Lennox <p.len...@derby.ac.uk> wrote: > yep, that was it - Paul Gillieron. They acquired the Huron to furnish the > National Car Park for Popular Music with a pre-decoded set of speaker > feeds, so that any idiot could press "play". At the time, I couldn't > understand why anyone would build a facility costing millions, then assume > it would have no resident sound engineer capable of actually operating > therein. Years later, I just sort of understand that that is what people > do. Nevertheless, it still seems bonkers to me that anyone would assume > that you can compose/produce in one space, and expect it to fit another. > > Having said that, the NCPM had the most improbable acoustics (circular, > dome ceiling, plenty of glass and stainless steel, no soft furnishings - no > door, plenty of spill from various other areas containing plenty of > speakers)... > > The place was clearly specified and designed by deaf persons. > > I'm sure with some time and ingenuity I could come up with a worse > acoustic - but it would be a lot of work, and why bother? > > > There are plenty of people who don't understand spatial sound, even though > they live in it every day. Fair enough. But the fact that they don't even > know that there actually is something they don't understand - inexcusable. > See: Dunning Kruger effect. > > > Dr. Peter Lennox > Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy > Senior Lecturer in Perception > College of Arts > University of Derby > > Tel: 01332 593155 > ________________________________ > From: Sursound <sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> on behalf of Paul Hodges < > pwh-surro...@cassland.org> > Sent: 15 December 2016 17:39:56 > To: Surround Sound discussion group > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Sound Art gallery South London > > --On 15 December 2016 17:01 +0000 Dave Malham <dave.mal...@york.ac.uk> > wrote: > > > Although I visited the Brixton studio > > and can even picture the inside of it, I'm damned if I can remember > > the name of either the studio or the people concerned > > Here's their brochure: > <http://www.surroundav.org/surround.AV.brochureMay2004.pdf> > > Paul > > -- > Paul Hodges > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and > reserves the right to monitor email traffic. > If you believe this was sent to you in error, please reply to the sender > and let them know. > > Key University contacts: http://www.derby.ac.uk/its/contacts/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20161215/fec8bdde/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University. 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