We are working on a headphone version of Ambiophonics, so keep posted. The trick is to give them a live demo. Once they have heard loudspeaker binaural moving the speakers closer together is not such an obstacle. I demonstrate by handing them a little foxl four inch wide sound bar and then watch them try to find the speakers at the side of the room. If you have money you can use BACCH at a wide speaker angle but that method is even more complex than Ambisonics.
Of course if you don't need perfection, you can use RACE at a wider speaker angle. It will still be better than stereo and that is what the two adjustments in RACE are for. I think most users will gradually move their speakers as they learn how to listen and use the simple adjustments. It certainly is a lot easier than Dolby Atmos or Auro3D or any three speaker 5.1 home theater setup. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Sursound [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augustine Leudar Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:21 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Best current binaural plugins in your experience ? To be honest - Im mainly looking for something for headphones for this - but yes - if someone has some kind of magical two speaker solution of any description that would be great - but I haven't really heard anything that's really done it for me yet . I did have a listen to your stuff but the 20 degree speaker thing is an issue in the studio - and I couldn't rely on the public moving speakers around or step back from speakers or that they would position speaker sin any certain way , sadly anything beyond a volume control and the they lose interest . On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:08, Augustine Leudar <[email protected]> wrote: > Its liste don here - but I don't know if this is the new or old version, > the old version had some problems : > > https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/spat/ > > > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 21:06, Augustine Leudar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Ralph, >> Thanks for that , Im looking for two speaker rather than 4 speaker >> solutions. Transaural is a term that was still being used very recently by >> some researchers at IRcaam - >> apparently they had about 3 PhD students working on a new transaural >> object for Spat - I don't know whether it ever got released. It wasn't just >> about the cross talk cancellation >> either, but they were also doing some stuff with HRTFs as well. Ill have >> a look at that page anyway tx >> >> On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 20:49, Ralph Glasgal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Transaural is essentially an early version of a crosstalk cancellation >>> algorithm if you mean the Cooper/Bauck paper. But time marches on. >>> RACE, >>> BACCH and a host of products based on these basic equations are now >>> available. Ambiophonics VST is a plugin but only works with Windows >>> programs. Otherwise there is Amtra, Neutron MP, Aria3d, Soundpimp, >>> miniDSP, >>> etc. or you can program your own using Audiomulch or similar and the RACE >>> block diagram. All these apps allow a good 2.0 or 4.0 recording to be >>> reproduced in half/full surround in the horizontal plane using four >>> speakers. All the links are collected at www.ambiophonics.org and RACE >>> is >>> in the public domain. Also lots of AES papers, tutorials, and 4.0 demo >>> tracks you can play with. This technology competes with Ambisonics so >>> there >>> it is. >>> >>> Ralph Glasgal >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sursound [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Augustine >>> Leudar >>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 1:33 PM >>> To: Surround Sound discussion group >>> Subject: [Sursound] Best current binaural plugins in your experience ? >>> >>> Hi there Surrsounders, >>> I hope you are all safe and well. So.... all our installations, audio >>> events, and exhibitions etc have obviously been canceled, and we've >>> basically been wiped out for the summer so I want to do some binaural >>> work >>> (not interactive), something I haven't done for a long time. Can anyone >>> let >>> me know what they think is the best binaural VST plugin around at the >>> moment - my favourite so far has been anaglyph - any other >>> recommendations? Also, did anyone hear an effective transaural effort (I >>> know Thebaut at IRCAM said his transaural spat thing was going to be good >>> but I've never heard it, I dont even know if its released ), >>> all the best >>> Augustine >>> -- >>> Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com >>> Business website: www.magikdoor.net >>> +44(0)7555784775 >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> < >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20200405/316 >>> da2a1/attachment.html >>> <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20200405/316 da2a1/attachment.html> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sursound mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >>> edit >>> account or options, view archives and so on. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sursound mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >>> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com >> Business website: www.magikdoor.net >> +44(0)7555784775 >> >> > > -- > Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com > Business website: www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > > -- Artist website: www.augustineleudar.com Business website: www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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