Good loudspeakers for stereo do not have the same response curve as a monospeaker, as the sum of the 2 stereo speakers need to produce the stereo image that should have a linear psycho acoustic frequency response.
Den tor 25 juni 2020 11:34Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> skrev: > That's nice to hear seeing as that is what I am using and they are very > accurate measuring very flat and fast spectral decay at all frequencies > more neutral than the HD650 or HD800. They are certainly my first choice of > headphones for mixing normal audio. However.... I guess the requirements of > binaural may be slightly different to normal stereo mixing and certainly > hifi listening. At least that's what I'm trying to assess at the moment. So > for mixing stereo you might choose Ns10m ((definately not flat) Genelec, > Atc whatever for mixing but for mastering you would choose Bowers and > Wilkins, Dunlavy, larger speakers generally. The applications for mixing > and mastering being slightly different. So I wonder if it's the same for > headphones. A listening test which assessed subject localisation in 3d > space comparing the same audio over various headphones would seem to be the > best way to resolve this. A large enough sample size should override the > differences between individual HRTFs. What you say about diffusivity is > interesting though I don't know how you could test for that. > > > On Thursday, 25 June 2020, Gernot von Schultzendorff < > g.schultzendo...@saalakustik.de> wrote: > > > The spatial reproduction of localization cues as they are used in common > > perception tests is only one aspect when it comes to the question of how > > well headphones are able to represent 3-dimensional spatiality. From my > > point of view it is even more important how headphones are able to > > reproduce diffusivity, because appropriate and meaningful diffusivity > > recognized by the perceptual system of the listener directly influences > the > > overall quality of what is perceived. What is meant is the perceptual > > phenomenon that makes the listening experience in very good concert > halls a > > very special one. This is a matter of holistic diffusivity, not local > > diffusivity, the latter making a single sound source appear less sharply > > defined. Holistic diffusivity can be experienced directly in good concert > > halls by switching between a place that is cut off from the diffusivity > > field (most often under the balconies) and a "good" listening place > during > > the interval - sometimes it is already enough and makes t > > he comparison especially striking to simply sit down 2 rows further > > ahead. There are worlds between the two listening experiences. > > > > Such holistic diffusivity which is not uniform but highly structured > seems > > to be largely under the radar of acoustic and perceptual sciences, and, > as > > far as I know, it is also hardly ever discussed in the audio field. > > > > Already with stereo music recordings, it is usually an essential sound > > aesthetic goal for me to make this kind of diffusivity effective to the > > listener even within the highly limited context of the stereo format. > These > > recordings are mixed over loudspeakers, but with the occasional use of > > headphones I always choose the Sennheiser HD600. Also and especially with > > binaural mixes (HOA 3rd order) I haven't listened to any better suited > > headphones so far. Without wanting to judge what the technical background > > for this is, the described "holistic" spatial reproduction of these > > headphones has been extremely successful. It is the main reason why it > > seems to be the most common tool used by audio professionals involved in > > binaural mixing (it was also used, besides the entries here in the forum, > > for the binaural remixes of old Kraftwerk recordings). > > > > Best > > Gernot > > > > > > > Am 24.06.2020 um 18:00 schrieb sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu: > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 11:48:53 +0200 (CEST) > > > From: Brian KATZ <brian.k...@sorbonne-universite.fr> > > > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Suitable headphones for monitoring binaural > > > compositions > > > Message-ID: > > > <969745703.37859639.1592992133215.JavaMail.zimbra@ > > sorbonne-universite.fr> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > "it would interesting to see if there are any papers/listening > > tests which have > > > tested lovcalisation with HRTFs and different types of headphones - are > > > there any ?" > > > > > > Here is at lest 1 study that I am familiar with: > > > > > > D. Sch?nstein, L. Ferr?, and B. Katz, ?Comparison of headphones and > > equalization for virtual auditory source localization,? in Acoustics?08. > 9e > > Congres Fran?ais d?Acoustique of the SFA. Paru dans : JASA, Vol 123, n?5, > > (Paris), pp. 1?5, 2008, ( > http://webistem.com/acoustics2008/acoustics2008/ > > cd1/data/articles/001080.pdf). > > > > > > -- > > > Brian FG Katz, Research Director, CNRS > > > Groupe Lutheries - Acoustique ? 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