in which you CAN tell the software where the speakers are and ideally in which direction they are facing.
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:20, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote: > just to elaborate with an example - I once had to pan a sound around an > octagon of speakers "facing outward" - using a normal octaphonic panner > worked with this just as well as if the speakers had been facing inward - > because basically the software doesn't know where you've put speakers- it > just uses panning laws to pan sounds from one speaker to the next, you just > need to play around with speaker positions/directivty/panning law etc . I > even used an octaphonic panner in which the software thought the speakers > were in a nice circle - to pan a sound round a part of a maze once. You > just have to watch your panning law/speaker positions so there's not too > many holes in the panning - and make sure you're not trying to pan "across > the circle" as obviously if your speakers are not in a circle it will lead > to unpredictable results. This is a workaround - obviously some form of > special DBAP software is preferred. > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Augustine Leudar <augustineleu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi I do these kinds of things all the time - far more than ambisonics in >> fact basically you want to use Dbap or just any form of amplitude panning. >> You could try using ICST in max msp which allows you to draw a map of the >> sp[eakers, adjust directivity and then pan the sound around said map, or >> you could try Immersive DSPs Immergo system which will allow you to do a >> similar thing with certain soundcards, I believe Spat has this capability >> too. If Learning this software is too much for your time schedule you can >> use normal surround sound panners in a way that they're not strictly meant >> to be used. For example a normal quadraphonic panner will still pan a sound >> up and down a straight line of 4 speakers instead of a square if you put >> the speakers in a straight line instead of a square etc etc >> all the best >> Gus >> >> On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 22:30, Søren Bendixen <soerenbendi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Surround group >>> For my next exhibition sounddesign I need to make to set ups that is >>> causing me some concern >>> one set up is 4 speakers, another is 6 speakers (but are only feeded by >>> 4 channels of sound) >>> BUT for both set ups the speakers are point away from center. >>> The speakers are arranged in a circle, They play out at an angle of >>> approx. 30 - 40 degrees, seen from a horizontal angle, so they point >>> upwards, a bit. Hope this is understandable. >>> >>> I usually work in reaper + Spat Revolution when I have to make "crazy" >>> configurations, but this one I can not get drawn in spat R and I do not >>> immediately know a program that can do such a set up. Next week I have to >>> experiment with a similar high-pitched line-up - and think that I might >>> just have to produce directly. >>> I will try quad format first and see/hear what happens... >>> >>> One of the set ups is a Mammuth standing in a river. 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