Steven Boardman <[email protected]> wrote:

> My point about Harpex was; you tried to do ORTF with only one Octomic, and it 
> wasn?t good. 
> Did you try to do 3D ORTF with 2 Octomic, experimenting with positions, and 
> which position each Harpexed Octomic synthesises?

We tried ORTF with two OctoMics and it works great. You can see a photo of the 
array here:

  https://www.core-sound.com/OctoMic/OctoMic-ORTF-Array-cropped.jpg

We have not yet tried ORTF-Surround nor ORTF-3D. We do have a fixture ready for 
both of them, using four OctoMics. You can see it here:

  https://www.core-sound.com/OctoMic/OM-ORTF-3D-1-cropped.jpg

My conclusion from experimenting with Harpex to generate spaced arrays - based 
on comparing it to an array of mono mics - is that Harpex's plane wave 
decomposition function isn't quite ready for prime time.

> PS don?t suppose you have a super-cardioid response of the Octamic? The CCM41 
> capsules used in the 3D ORTF are excellent, with pretty dam good polar 
> response upto 16k. (Obviously they wouldn?t be anyway near the same in an 
> array being so close to each other:)
> 
> https://schoeps.de/en/products/ccm/ccm-microphones/supercardioids/ccm-41.html

We haven't generated a graph for first- and second-order supercardioids yet. 
You might want to compare that CCM41 graph to OctoMic's first- and second-order 
cardioid and hypercardioid graphs. They'll give you a good sense of how the 
supercardioid graphs would look.

   https://www.core-sound.com/OctoMic/2.php

The second-order patterns are worth exploring. They offer some unique features.


Len Moskowitz ([email protected])
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
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