Hello (Jo)Hannes,

"After participating in the study, I was one of the people to comment that the imposed source movements basically destroyed the timbre of the source content."

Application of basic acoustical/perceptual theories < were elementary > to come to the very same conclusion. (Even if not listening at all.  ;-)

In the end, it is kind of re-assuring if practice meets theory. (Or vice versa...)

Best regards

Stefan (Schreiber)

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 Data: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 22:46:51 +0100

 De: Hannes Helmholz <[email protected]>

 Assunto: Re: [Sursound] Into Sound - Headphone Localization Hearing Test

 Para: Surround Sound discussion group <[email protected]>

Hey Jakob,



Thanks for sharing. I would say the paper is a decent first try on some scientific work. :)



After participating in the study, I was one of the people to comment that the imposed source movements basically destroyed the timbre of the source content. So even if it would have been shown to be somewhat successful in improving f/b-confusions, it did not seem like a practically viable implementation.



Reading your documentation and finding an oscillation rate of 14 Hz explains my observation of impaired timbre to me. General head movements I would expect to maybe be in a range of 1-3 Hz (what you also chose for the other axis). Why did you decide to use such a high value in your design?



 Kind regards,

 /Hannes



 On 2021-12-19 16:51, Jakob Gille wrote:

I recently finished the evaluation of the listening test I made about the effect of an oscillating sound source for the localization of sounds in binaural music.

I wrote a little paper about it. You can find it here:https://lnkd.in/eZsTJ6it





 Am 02.11.2021 um 12:34 schrieb Jakob Gille:

Thank you a lot for your comments!

I'm happy that I included also the option to add comments directly to the test because I got recently a lot of helpful input which I suppose was mostly coming from the sursound discussion group :)

Regarding the front/back confusion: unfortunately, this is still a huge problem, and I'm not sure if my method can help with that.

I would still encourage you to do the test and have your best and first guess if the signal is coming from the front or back. It still could be that the front/back confusion is overall really bad but maybe slightly better with my method.



I did not include hard left, right and center because my method is not really helping with the perception of these directions that are already quite good perceived.

Another reason was to have not too many questions for the test, thus keeping it short.





 Am 01.11.2021 um 13:00 schrieb Jon Honeyball:

Hmmmm



You need to have “left” “center” and “right” answers too – I stopped scoring because I was getting no meaningful front/back, and so my answers would have been invalid if I continued



 Jon



From: Sursound<[email protected]>  on behalf of Jakob Gille<[email protected]>

 Date: Monday, 1 November 2021 at 11:24

 To: Surround Sound discussion group<[email protected]>

 Subject: [Sursound] Into Sound - Headphone Localization Hearing Test

 For all the people interested in binaural audio:

 I'm currently working on a new technique to enhance the localization of

 sounds in binaural music.

 To further examine this, I created a hearing test. It would be great if

 a lot of people could participate to get representative results.

 So have fun listening to some Shakespeare and Drums and feel free to

 share the test!

 It only takes around 5 min.

 https://bit.ly/intosoundhearingtest <https://bit.ly/intosoundhearingtest>



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 Into Sound - Konzerte für dreidimensionale Musik

 https://intosound.de
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