I saw Frazer's comment about his brother's copy of NewDeal
software not being able to connect to his ISP.  I now have the
School Suite and the Web Suite (ND Release 3).  And like him I'm
having some trouble with the same thing.

>From my conversations with folks on the NewDeal list it appears
that the current version doesn't yet  implement the terminal
log-in option - although the interface would suggest that is
does.  But it sure looks like they will have it on the next rev.
- and hopefully I can get that when it comes out.

The web suite supports "automatic" log-in without scripting.
While I'm not certain - I suspect we're talking about PAP, here.
The same PAP that is causing many of us to have to change our
older software in favor of Arachne (which does PAP) or something
else - because the ISP's with PAP don't accomodate terminal-style
logins to establish the PPP connection.

So while many of you in the states are having to upgrade your
software to accomodate your ISP - I have to upgrade the ISP to
accomodate the software ;^).  Ain't life great?

But with about a week using this software on a 386-16 I am
VERY impressed.  I'm still going to put it through its paces - try
it in a LAN (Netware emulation with Linux).  Etc...
Interestingly, I tried it running from within W95 set up for
resource sharing - with the network running but no remote drives
mapped - it sees the remote drives but can't access them.  But as
soon as you map the drive locally and give it a drive letter.
There it is!  So this software - although ideal for the older PC's
- is also pretty handy on a Pentium.

I use an HP670 printer - with the included HP660 driver - and
printout looks great.  But with my hardware (16 MHz, no
coprocessor) printing can be sloooooow in high quality mode.  So
it takes some patience ( "would you like some coffee?").

The documentation is NOT technical - and what few tech notes there
are are on-line at www.NewDealinc.com.  So those of us with
technical inclinations might be a bit frustrated.

Someone asked, "Is it worth it?"  My assessment is that if all you
want is a web browser and email  (the $40 Websuite works alone) it
might be a bit steep compared to Arachne (free for non-commercial
use).  But if you want a web browser that interfaces seamlessly
with your wordprocessor, plus spread sheet, graphics package,
database, fax, terminal program (for your BBS - didn't help solve
the log-in problem) and more....all in a GUI desktop
environment which has nifty features like drag-n-drop - $60 for
one of the office or school suite - then $40 for the web suite -
is a bargain.

So in my opinion if you have PAP on your ISP get both - If you
don't have PAP - then just the Office or School Suite will
probably make you a happy person if you like a GUI.  I know a lot
of people want to run MS Office products - but they're on a 286 or
386 budget - this is the solution.  While I am a CLI user
from way back - I understand the populariy of the GUI and
recognize that the people I work with today practically demand it.
Now I can give it to them on their Survivor machines.


Bob


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