Paul:
     In a previous message I mentioned runnuing a project "computers
for Charities"  in midwestern Canada (Winnipeg). It started as a
lark and when we saw the demand, we did get serious and sent off
letters to various businesses in town describing who we are (We used
our PC user groups name - we were the execuetive  :-) ) and our
porject, the names of the first receipients, we were deluged with
offers of computers and components.

Couple of problems: [1] storage space & help to rebuild the systems
[2] transport of material to far away places. While we can get stuff
here in North America for free, transport to coastal zones ( for
shipping abroad) is prohibitively expensive.

However in North America, there is a free source.  The senior
citizens & retirees travel in great numbers from the northen parts
of the continent (its cold here) to warm sunny southern parts Which
are also close to seaports. These poeple often travel in huge mobile
homes. If properly canvassed they will be amenable to transporting
stuff (in small quantities ). This is a force/source to reckon with.

Perhaps one could them get some freigther to carry overseas...

Older versions of Software can often be obtained from dealers
etc.There is also a great deal of freeware and shareware available.
Some of the sheware authors would donate a few copies to a
legitimate cause.

Regards
Harsha Godavari

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Paul Cull wrote:
>
> Hal,
>
> > have always felt a sense of guilt about removing so called obsolete
> systems
> >(286, 386, 486) from service and throwing them away. Consequently I have
> >quite a pile of these. I am looking to donate my time and know how to local
> >organizations to get computers in front of people who would otherwise not
> be
> >exposed. If anyone has a similar project going I would love to hear about
> it.
>
> I am a former Analyst / Programmer from New Zealand working with at-risk
> children and teens in a morro (slum) in Rio de Janeiro state, Brazil. These
> kids have NOTHING (often we have to give food, clothing etc) and the
> educational system here is very poor.
>
> One of the projects we're starting here are free computer lessons for these
> children and teens inside the slums, for which we are using ancient
> (DOS-based) hardware. I've currently got XTs, 386s, 486s, which I'm trying
> to get going to be able to establish the courses.
>
>  We run a small base in the morro here, just last night there appeared to be
> shooting in front of the house. Yet, the kids are really keen to learn (one
> made a 386 out of a donated XT and same cards I had, and took it to the
> shack where he and six others sleep in one small room!).
>
> I've joined this list to hopefully get tips about keeping these machines
> going, although I'm also keen to find sources of donated hardware that we
> can ship from the U.S. to Rio.
>
> We've already been asked to start similiar projects in two other cities,
> including a slum in Rio de Janeiro city itself. For this to work, we just
> need the machines.
>
>  Regards
> -------------------------------------------
> Paul Cull
> Associa��o Civil Casa Esperan�a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.pcebrasil.org
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