"No Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In a message dated 03*13*2000 9:44:29 PM, you wrote:
>
> <<(it is said that the
> GUI for the Apple II made in 1986 was MUCH better then the GUI that
> Windows 1 had, and that MS only "came close" to it in Windows 95.>>

That's because Apple effectively suppressed any GUI that remotely looked
like the Mac interface. If my memory is correct, GEM was squashed by Apple,
not Microsoft. The trashcan icon was the undoing. Until MS won in court,
nobody dared look too much like PARC.

It wasn't all that long ago that Microsoft was one of the little guys. And
Apple didn't mind throwing their then considerable clout around.

> Up until a few months ago I avoided Mac's like the plague, believing
> their systems to be too primitive and user unfriendly. After wading
> thru the ages from Mac Plus to my now used Quadra 700 which uses
> a chip running at only 25 Mhz and 8 megs of ram, I can see how backward
> I was.

I agree Apple did some good things with the interface...

> I have full use of the Internet with this SURV MAC and it accesses
> like my SURV PC 486/66 with 32 megs of ram. Apple is quite impressive
> and its system software is, in most cases, fall-down simple and
> comprehendable. Wanna make a formatted hard drive bootable? Just
> drag and drop a System Folder onto it from a floppy. No "sys" necessary,
> no copying DOS first, then the operating system off floppies.

However, were pretty limited with a Mac in terms of expansion. Until fairly
recently, everything HAD to be either from Apple, or a handful of "approved"
vendors. Macs used SCSI drives, but you had to have a "formatter" utility to
use any kind of drive. Never mind that SCSI interfaces were designed to make
things universal, you could be screwed without a formatter. They also tried
to lock customers into Apple-only mouse and keyboard options.

I was an Apple user going back to the Apple ][+. I was saddened to see the
way they treated Woz, and never thought of them as the neat little company
with great ideas again after that. Had Apple grabbed a major market share,
they'd have been just as obnoxious and predatory as Microsoft is today. They
just made some bad calls.

- Bob

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