> OK! I'm no longer able to keep quiet. I was tempted to dive in before, but > others did so. On this below I can't keep quiet. Below?! > First, I must say, that the neurological differences between men and > women are pretty minor. No. It is the the second major difference. I think women need to reduce it because enhancing biological difference means to enhance distance from male-female parity. CULTURE uses differences to deprecate woman. But diversity exists and I think it should not be ignored. You are different from a man in body and mind. I am not saying you are less than a man or you are more than a man. Simply: you are different form me. Don't matter if you live in U.S. or Turkey. Neurological differences is ONE face of all diversity between male and female. >Your example below is ALL CULTURE, not physiology! > I'll tell you that NO ONE OWNS ME! That's sure. You are a woman not a cow. ... >From Merriam webster's Collegiate Dictionary (tenth edition) OWN vt: 1:to have or hold as property : POSSES : b : to have power over : CONTROL <wanted to ~ his own life> 2: to acknowledge to be true, valid or as claimed : ADMIT <~ a debt> [...] You taken the most negative sense of OWNS.... (POSSES) Of course I'm not a perfect translator. Apologize only for this. > or ever will. My father certainly does > not own my mother. Your father does not own your mother as you mother does not own you father... ok. (ONWS in posses sense) Since female are freedom spirits and you shown this very well: "NO ONE OWNS ME", your mother join the bond in the soul of :"I'll donate all myself to man I love .... etc...." BUT your father join the bond in the soul of "I'll protect the woman I love... etc...." To donate and to protect is not the same. Until these DNA differences are not ignored bonds can be stronger because they follow the natural way... It is what I tried to say time ago. If you get married and in your bond you'll do a male role something will go wrong a day. > He loves her, as a person not as an object. Object?!?!?! No. You don't understand me. I never spoken about women or men are objects. > If I heard > a man refer to "owning" me, Weak and easy to discuss example: "You are MY love" sounds good? > that would be it, I'd be GONE. And I know many > of my fellow women feel the same way. Of course... > In western culture at least, once upon > a time, we used to have women as property Turk women and cows are same still today. >, and we used to have slavery. Both > were equally wrong. We are people. Most coupel I know either think of > themsleves as "partners" or as "two become one" or as BOTH owning each other. STOP!! Ok, I agree to your observation but "male-own" is different from "female-own". > MOST of the things you see as differences in men and women are cultural. I think this is a world wide error. Surely you are a young woman to say this. It is so easy to see how male children and female ones take different actions in same situation. > babies are treated differently from the beginning, in choice of toys, color > of clothing, and interaction. Sociological studies show that parents and > educators automatically play rougher with boys than girls, and treat girls > more delicately, even though boy babies are more likely to die in infancy, > and men have lower pain thresholds! Girls are taught to stay near the home, > boys are encouraged to be indpendant and explore. It is the assumptions > that adults have that put these qualities into children. Psychologist also > say that the happiest most well rounded people are those who are mentally > androgynous. > You also don't know how many women think either, if you've never heard a > woman look at "her man" possessively. This is not a trait mother nature > imprinted on men or women, but it is a thing that some particular people have > and some don't - both men and women. > Sex is what mother nature gave us, meaning biological reproductive > differences. Gender is what society puts in us, and is where all those things > that women are "supposed to" do and feel come from. Gender and sex are > separate things. Gender is all learned. No. Gender is not all learned. You born with sex and this will drive you in a natural way to your gender. Placing all things in right places. It is exactly this what I (tried) to point you last e-mails: there are natural attitude gender-driven. Men are different form woman in body and mind. Anyone should do what it feels to be done. Mother Nature will do the rest. If culture will judge you for your sex and you want not it this is another problem. I think female today must deprecate this way to see things because CULTURE using differences make female as second class people. Enhancing differences may be a way for more deprecate female. Nobody like to be a second class person, but making female acting like men I not a good solution to get to be peer. >From my view point a woman can't be peer to a man exctly as a man can't be peer to a woman. Men are one thing and woman another one. Deprecate a man because him can't do chilndren is silly as to deprecate a woman because is weak than a man. > You assume too much. Really? I assume only one thing: women are so interesting and beautiful just because are so differents. Killing difference is silly. > When you assume that just because you were taught > people should be a certain way, that it is from nature or biology. How old are you Amy? Let me guess: 16-19. > -Chrys Amy Dean A.P. To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. More info can be found at; http://www.softcon.com/archives/SURVPC.html
