[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happening with Nettamer? MIME version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit boundary="--tcpsmtp010170200109032053" --tcpsmtp010170200109032053 If you have been watching the Nettamer List, Walter Scott has decided to give up on following the list. This is a major loss, because Walter has always notified the list when a new beta version was posted to the Nettamer web page. Walter also spent many hours testing the new betas of Nettamer and ALWAYS posted an objective analysis. In the distant past Bob Buckland did a similar service. However, Bob quit for approximately the same reasons as Walter. Just that Bob saw the "hand writing on the wall" a lot sooner than Walter choose to see it. Walter's reasons appear obvious to me: Nothing is happening with Nettamer. IF David Colston has made the decision to no longer support the application, then he should say that on the mailing list. IF David Colston has taken time off from supporting or developing the application - FOR WHAT EVER REASONS - then he should say so on the list. I added a /CC to Uncle Dave as well as some of the regular supporters of of Nettamer. Because I don't want to see a functional DOS-based application that gives access to the Internet be lost because of a perceived lack of interest by the developer. There is obviously interest in a DOS-based PPP dialer which can have other applications attached to the PPP dialer. Heimo Classen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has posted the parameters to follow when developing a stand alone version of the PPP dialer. It appears someone has taken Heimo's suggestions and is building beta code that is claimed to be a DOS-based PPP dialer. The SURVPC mailing list has many recent comments about folks attempting to add applications to the newly developed DOS-PPP dialer application. Somebody thinks there time is well served by working on the source code to produce just such an application. Last fall I posted a request for anyone interested in a DOS-based PPP dialer to send me personal email. I received about fifty (50) positive responses. ZERO negative responses. The pricing suggested covered the gambit from: freeware - without support & "take it as is" - through $100 (USD) for a version with docs which includes how-to's "hooking" other applications. Some North American folks have questioned Heimo Classens' posting about the poll taken by the German magazine which found over half the respondents still use some flavor of DOS on a regular basis. IMO those of us in North America are under the illusion that cheap, reliable, & accessible telephone service, a large number of local ISP's are available, and cheap high-powered computers, along with the discretionary personal funds for using the Internet are what everybody has available worldwide = NOT!!! IMO we North American's live in a computing candy store compared to most of the rest of the computing world. (Also I have a lot of older computer available to me that other people have decided to replace because of the on-going upgrade marketing wars which keep the American stock market afloat. I prefer to look at the basics of what can you actually send & receive over your communications system attached to your computer. In our office we sure cannot afford the cost of a T-1/E-1, synchronous 1.54Mbps connection to the Internet backbone. Just in case some of you all think your ADSL or ISDN is so darn fast that you need that much bandwidth - remember your running in an asynchronous environment. Thus you can't push that much juice down the wire on a steady state basis. I you don't believe me, go read about the fundamentals of telephone networks and "real data packet speeds".) Back to Nettamer and what are the options for the shareware and registered users? We North American's can sit with our thumbs in our ears and simply move Nettamer onto an older computer and consider it to be a tool we use on an occasional basis. Billy Gate's and Micro$oft would love us to take that approach. However, if, your blind, your disabled, your only computer is an older DOS-based machine, your financially underprivileged, or, your telco is not located in North America, your going to want Nettamer to remain a viable product. So, Uncle Dave, what's it going to be? Does your existing user base switch to another application? Or will you, can you, do you want to, finally bite the bullet and update the bug fixes that Thomas collected from users last fall? Or are you willing to collaborate with some of the folks who have built applications based on the Nettamer product line? Uncle Dave, your welcome to set the record straight and not remain the anonymous poster of occasional beta code and occasional upgrades to the Nettamer web page. I would like to see anyones comments cross posted to both the Nettamer and SURVPC lists. That way everybody can understand what is going on and we are not stuck with the choice forwarding personal emails with "secrets" in them. John Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> using NetTamer, DOS shareware Voice mail: 800-589-8167 Office: 916-339-2311 Pacific Time Coming Soon!! Mouse Support for Edlin!! Net-Tamer V 1.08 - Registered To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. 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