On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 10:43:02AM -0400, Pete Rickard wrote:
>
> This makes me curious about my own lame, temporary site at:
>
>   http://www.geocities.com/midi_pete
>
> It's a pretty simple site but I'm wondering how it appears to
> a *web-challenged* text-only browser.  It was created quickly
> using Yahoo's page creation tool from this iMac.  Also I have
> referenced at least 3 sites of participants on SurvPC and it
> would be good to know there are no problems with (or objections
> to) the links I am using.  The html code appears more complex
> than it should be, but in Netscape it looks fine to me.
>

Okay, I did a quick check with three text browsers under Linux
(I don't have a DOS machine up and running at the moment).

First I tried w3m. Some weird stuff happened with this one.
The page loaded with some text but as soon as I arrowed down
the text disappeared and all I got was a page of your links.
I suppose your page uses frames? I remember w3m handling them
but in this case it seems as if the frame collapsed/disappeared.
To give you an idea it looked like this (partial only).

*          * [c]     * [c] *                          *  * *

----------------------------------------------------->
boutme..]                            [copper02]




                              Tom Copper's collection




                              Some related links:



                              Ben's DOS page
[etc]

So then I called Lynx from w3m (it can call up to three browsers).
Of course Lynx doesn't do frames so the page was just a collection
of stuff. The top had all the images, shown as [c.gif] or something
then a bunch of text and the links at the bottom.
So everything was there but under lynx everything looked unformatted.
No paragraphs or anything. Just a jumble really.

The third browser was Links. Links does frames much better than
w3m and your page was well layed out with this browser.
The main text was on the left, with paragraphs, and the DOS links were
on the right. Looked good.

I thought about trying the Linux version of Arachne but the copy
I have is a bit dated not to mention a problem I'm having with svgalib
and my video card or monitor.

If you're using Win9x you could always install the console version
of Lynx (works in a DOS box but is not a DOS app) so then you can
test your page with a text browser. Obviously lynx doesn't do the
frames thing but it still helps on checking some basic formatting
maybe.

Marc

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