Garry, >>>I'm sure there is. I've never really delved into the ListServ commands, but we've got guys in the list who are more familiar with it. Travis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) runs that list, and can help with the details. I'm also pretty sure that you can find the ListServ commands on line.<<< Thanks, I'll check it out! >>> Yeah, I'm running Linux, but on my best and newest box. > Since I am into graphics, and using GIMP, there is no way > a smaller set-up would work for me, although Linux/Unix > is a lot less of a memory hog than Windows. > Yup, I know how that goes. My legacy Linux/BSD boxes are basically going to be file/print servers and firewalls.<<< Yes, the new distros are a lot more demanding than the older ones, but they have a lot more versatility for everyday business computing, too. Microsoft XP might wind up sending a lot of people to Linux and Unix, who want to retain actual ownership of their computers, and do not wish to become 'Micro-serfs'.<g> Wouldn't it be ironic if it was Bill Gates himself, who pushed open source computing into the fore? Heh. >>> I wonder how useful it would be to check out the various > versions of Windows, starting with the first graphic DOS > overlays that preceded Windows, up through Win for > Workgroups, where the split with NT occurred, up to the > present incarnations. > That depends -- how much free time do you have? I have finally had to decide which things I could actually take the time to do. I'd love to be able to learn another four languages, but I have to select two. I'd love to get good at both Windows and Unix API programming, but I think I'll have to let one of them go for now.<<< Well, I am not on any particular time schedule, and this is an educational thing, so I can pursue it as it suits me, until I run out of time and motivation, or feel I have learned enough in the area to suit me. I have (actually had) already pretty much settled the matter of languages, Perl and VBasic, but since I am still just at the beginning of learning them, I am a little bit concerned about VBasic as a choice now, with the release of XP. I think that if XP fails in its release, this will be an encouraging sign for me to continue learning VBasic, but if XP succeeds, I think I might explore Java instead, being more cross-platform compatible, or so I have heard. I don't want to tie myself to a language that is primary to Microsoft products and platforms if XP succeeds with it's 'anti-piracy' feature. I do not see the feature as much of a deterrent to professional pirates and software crackers, they will succeed in cracking XP the same as they have succeeded in cracking everything else. Microsoft is just abusing their honest customers, by inventing software that intrudes unnecessarily into the privacy of a person's computer. >>>It kind of sucks trying to second-guess the industry and the preferences of customers/employers when deciding which of two or three things to learn well -- with a significant time investment, of course. What's *really* frustrating is choosing a course based on the merits of a technology, only to find that what becomes popular (and therefore a requirement) is the less technically competent solution.<<< Yes, this is just what I am faced with above. I don't want to learn a language that is primary to a platform I might myself soon discontinue using, or at least discontinue upgrading. I realise that Microsoft and Windows are going to control a large share of the market, and a majority of users, for quite some time to come, and would like to write a language well suited to the environment, but I would never consider putting XP, or any other software with such intrusive and limiting power, onto any of my machines. thanks, -wittig Online Portfolio and Gallery: http://www.robertwittig.com/ To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. More info can be found at; http://www.softcon.com/archives/SURVPC.html
