"Pete Rickard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [...]
> In US department stores (and many "job lot" stores) there are pocket
organizers
> for sale for $20 or less. Typical model is a Rolodex/Franklin 512k model
that offers
> many features as well as a phone directory and a jot-down-notes mode.
What interests
> me about these is a "free PC download" kit offered through the mail after
purchase;
> exactly what I could use - a little device I can use to record addresses,
phone
> numbers, names, diner locations, whatever on the road and, when I return
home,
> a way to dump them into my trusty text-only 386 PC.

I don't have any simple answers, but there's good news, bad news I think.

There are two challenges you face:

1. Getting some software that will work with DOS to interface with the
device (more below).
2. Getting a definition of the data that can be exchanged with the device.

> The main problem is that the included software usually requires W95 or
newer;
> DOS ain't supported.  But with the proper serial cable, isn't there a
simple way to do
> a basic "data dump" from one of these little pocket marvels?  Has anyone
tried this?
> It would be good to not reinvent the wheel, so to speak.

ALTERNATIVE 1: PORT *NIX SOFTWARE
My experience in this area comes from using a Palm handheld. Although many
of the issues are the same regardless of device, Palm does have the
advantage of providing a wealth of developer info and data definitions. The
good news is that if you use a Palm device, a lot of work has already been
done. The bad news is that everything I've seen is written for *nux. The
next bit of good news is that it's open source software, and the odds of
someone porting it to DOS are pretty good, so long as they have experience
working with serial devices under DOS. There are also a number of utilities
to convert between Palm and non-Palm software, so that part should work well
for you. Many of them are written in C, so someone suitably equipped could
make it happen. They're all very small utilities, so size shouldn't be much
of an issue. I haven't ported anything to DOS for nearly 10 years, so I'm
afraid I can't help much. If you are (or know) a DOS developer, then take a
look at www.freshmeat.net and look at the PalmOS category to see some of
what's available. If someone's REALLY ambitious, the source for the Palm
conversion utilities should give them a good head start on writing something
equivalent to

ALTERNATIVE 2: RUN A LIGHT LINUX DISTRIBUTION TO TRANSFER DATA
Another possibility might be to use Steven's BasicLinux to set up a minimal
Linux install on your 386 just for data transfer using the existing Linux
tools, then manipulate the files in DOS.

ALTERNATIVE 3: PSION
I did a bit of searching, and found a few other links that might be helpful.
The page at http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/sisync5.htm references
conversion software for PSION organizers.

ALTERNATIVE 4: DOS SURV-HANDHELDS
If you don't mind using a Surv-Handheld, the HP200s and Atari Portfolio were
DOS-based handhelds. The Poquet was a larger unit that was DOS-based as
well. Using one of these might allow you to use the SAME software on both
your desktop and handheld. Amazingly though, the HP200 seems to have held
it's value better than a desktop, and they sell for a premium on ebay. I ran
an Atari Portfolio for about a year back about 1990 or so (when they were
new) and it worked well until I cracked the screen. It was an interesting
unit, and ran native DOS apps quite well. With a serial card, it might be
exactly what you want. The downside is that one of these will probably run
for closer to $100+.

Good luck!

- Bob

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