Hi Glenn,
Hi Heimo,
About "SURVPC Digest - 22 Apr 2002 to 23 Apr 2002 (#2002-105)" and
"`NetMail for DOS v2.12' gets clogged on E-Mail" of April 24:
GG> Michael...
The name is Michel, not Michael. I correct that from time to time.
;-)
MS> I experienced a wild bug today: `NM' repeatedly failed... I used
MS> `{Commo}' to have a copy of it in file and then i deleted it from my
MS> ~POP3~ server, the problem didn't show up anymore...
GG> It looks like your POP Inbox had a bad message... I ran into similar
GG> problems once about 2 years ago, and had to use telnet to go in...
Then we have comparable experiences! Only i faced it more often...
GG> ...in my case, spam from Argentina.
Yes, i don't see why but that happens with ~SPAM~ indeed, as if all
the mail i receive were from total strangers who got no clue who i am...
GG> ...I've also used FoxMail for Windows 3.1 to delete bad messages, it
GG> has a "remote mailbox" function.
Nice to know, even if i'm not supporting the monopolistic empire of
darkness so much... I know my way around in ~TelNet~ but i took notice.
:)
HC> According to Marc Ressl, author of Netmail for DOS, there is one
HC> known bug in its version 2.12: with an input/download line length of
HC> exactly 1001 bytes and a certain package length it hangs and retries
HC> do download the same line endlessly. Ressl said this had nothing to
HC> do with anything in that line, but just with that exact line length.
Thank you, the explanation is sound. I'm just a bit surprized, the
`{Commo}' macros i use would have to be quite wrong to crash any PC like
this... 8-o I'd suggest the author to add an equivalent of the "Remote
MailBox" function mentioned by Glenn but you may have witnessed how much
interrest i can raise when i try to contact authors, i'd leave it alone!
HC> I have experienced this condition twice, in a short time in the
HC> middle of last year and never again since. At my machine, NM did
HC> not go berserk but endlessly wrote empty lines instead of the mail
HC> file it was to download; could have filled the whole hard disk...
It did exactly this to me once but it also sent to my screen what i
believe would have come from de-afected memory. I saw parts of my macro
right after `{Commo}' was finished with it and had unloaded; that means
either my memory manager is the problem or it's because of `NM' - maybe?
HC> Only way out at that moment was indeed either to download that
HC> specific mail with some other mailer (I use a "manual" net working
HC> tool for this, a script... ...or to delete the offending item...
I thought simple ~ASCII~ capture mustn't be a problem to implement,
it seems `NM' does something more... 8-o In any case, that makes three
of us who end up deleting the problematic message on the server. That's
confirmation that `NM' is more likely to be the problem than the packet-
driver or whatever. I ought to thank you for that insight and while i'm
at it i must confess i'm curious. Well, we didn't exactly have the nice
start we might have wished for, i suppose, but you've contacted a number
of authors i would say and i want to know if any of them would happen to
be after, euh... a challenge. 8-o The idea is this: `RLFossil' works
a bit as `SIO'/`VMoDem' in `OS/2' (a Virtual ~TelNet~ MoDem "shim"). My
efforts to trace the author of `RLFossil' led me nowhere and the source-
code of `RLFossil' was never released to the Public Domain... Would you
happen to have any interresting comment, about such a piece of SoftWare?
I once imagined that David Lindauer might have been able to do something
like this but it's now clear that he's not exactly available - or to say
the least, he's not seeking the comments of `LSPPP'/`LSICQ' users... :(
I know that people will usually require payment for custom work but
i'm not looking for a programmer who needs employment, merely hobbyists.
%-)
I've been trying to shed some light on the reasons why `ZMoDem' via
~TelNet~ often fails in most DOS applications for some time, i'd like to
read people who know about the problems and remedies; maybe, `RLFossil'
can be made to work, etc. I need to use `ZMoDem'/~TelNet~ to get files.
:^)
HC> NETBAS (v0.4) can be found at my www place, together with a script
HC> to use with POP3 servers allowing to use all server commands...
Ho, then there's probably a few things i may be able to learn here!
8^D
Salutations,
Michel Samson
www3.sympatico.ca/bicephale
a/s Bicephale
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