"Anthony J. Albert" wrote:

> Yep.  Trouble is, just like running DOS in a ramdisk... changes that
> you've made to the configuration of Linux would be lost.  However,
> writing to the hard drive when you're not looking isn't necessarily a
> *bad* thing... that's what swap space, and temporary files, and
> configuration files are all about.  Many DOS programs use all three of
> those techniques, when they are run.
Granted that any changes I made to the config would be lost. so would
any changes made by sabotage software. But if I make the changes, I'm
either smart enough to know that, and save them, or I should use windoz.
And of course, if I screw up XF86Config, and it dont work, I just
reboot. If it does work, then save it someplace. Like the dos drive. but
put all the Linux apps and my own web data, email, or links or whatever
on the ext2 drive. The actual BasicLinux config stays on the dos drive.
It'll be a while before sabotage software figures that out.

> >And, when I want to shutdown dos, it takes half a second to dump the
> >diskcache, and the computer turns itself off. (no questions asked) When
> >I want to shut down the distro, I havta click on the logout, when it
> >will stop me again to make me click to ignore the ppp driver or
> >whatever, then make me click again because I dont want to login as root,
> >and make me click again, cause I dont want it to reboot. I can
> >understand, that since Linux is a multitasking os, that sysads really
> >like it for networks, which is fine, but I note that you dont turn off
> >network servers if you can help it, so an inconvenient method is no
> >problem. And there are home users who dont mind leaving the PC on
> >forever. Which offends my sense of frugality and the waste of resources
> >which is ruining the planet.
>
> It depends on your Linux distribution.  You can, if you are logged in
> as root, issue the command "shutdown -h now" at the command prompt, and
> the system will shut down.
Yeah, I can see doing that; ctrl-F1, then 'root', then password, then
type out the line.
With dos? CTRL-X closes the app. turn off power. [that's a period]

> >It'd be slick if it gave you your email in text mode while it loaded the
> >gui apps in the background.
>
> You can do this - Linux uses a separate "virtual console" for the GUI,
> so just last weekend, I had X running on console #4, and three text
> mode consoles running in virtual consoles #1, 2, and 3.
Theoretically. but the Linux email tools I've used were all gui.

>
> DOS does have its place, but being able to switch between multiple CLI
> applications (ALT-Fx) really has its attractions.  Especially once GPM
> (mouse support) is loaded, and you can copy-and-paste between the CLI
> consoles.
I've had Deskview and DRDOS's TASKMGR, which let me switch between
virtual dos sessions. But I use 'JOT-IT' to pop up to make notes or
capture a text mode screen, and didnt really find switching that useful.
Course, with dos apps that were designed on a 386, the launch/close
speed is so high that I didnt care that I could only run one thing at a
time. I can only read one page at a time.

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