- RH started getting their name in the mags, so they start picking
>up more publicity when third-party companies announce tie-ins, so more
>publicity, etc.. RH shouldn't be knocked for their corporate vision and
>market penetration. Rather, it is down to SuSE to start a media blitz of
>announcements, interviews (everyone can name RH's CEO, but who is the boss
>of SuSE??) and
The only link to Hardware is VA. Suse should realy try to find some sort of
bundling agreement with either a hardware manufacture , or bundle/include
it with one of the compnent hardware manufactures , ie network card , Tape
backup hardware. Include it in a box , where the Corparate networking
department / tech will find it.
Better yet , find a hardware manufacture that can preinstall it and get the
"office Server" into a staple , office mmax enviorment. Some sort of all in
one solution. rember Lantastic Kits.
approaching the hardware vendors to look at producing systems
>with SuSE pre-installed. I have used both RH & SuSE, and found SuSE 5.2 far
>easier to work with as a newbie - thank God for Yast !!
Publicity , and exposer are surly lacked by suse here in the use. Just look
in the major book stores. The only one that handles suse is Borders.Ditto
for barns and noble. You also never see it at Comp USA or Compter City.
They should also target Staples , Office max Ect. It takes a lot of hard
work to find a copy. Reatial , and Walk in customers will not have a shot
at it. You can find Red Hat everywhere.
>In fact, SuSE should really angle their promos at the ease of installation &
>admin thanks to Yast, that way more of the newbie market will be captured by
>the Chameleon rather than disappearing into the Red Hat tide. Personally I'd
The eas if installation is a real problem for newbies. Try telling your
average joe customer that you need t make a new partion . Cant wait to see
the look on his face. Better yet , tell him you need three to 5 partions
(swap, / and /usr), He will run away.
Man imagine if suse were to come up with a realy bullit proof Simple
Install procedure , where it does it all, Install OS , Install xserver ,
Printer , and Install modem , Set up some basic software , ie Xwindows ,
Web browser , that will work out of the biox with the modem .
Right now the install require more info than the average joe has knoldge
about. I have yet to set up the modem and dial up to access the net. Mater
of fact , SUSE installed the wrong xserver , andd failed to note that it
did not have the SVGE server and allert me that there was a vga16 server
avialable (Tahnks to Len who pionted me in the right direction. Sax needs
some work , as it wont even load , and others have had problems with it.
Give a bullit proof install that can give at least a bare bones set up
that works. ie xwin/server , modem , printer , and internet connection
that work.
Then the user wont be disapionted and drop it at the firt sing of trouble.
Maybee we need two inatalls , one for the new user , that hold his hand ,
and one for the advanced youser who allready knows his harware and can
deal with missbehaved drivers ect...
>Me, I'm waiting for SuSE 6 to pop through my letter box.
I like it so far , Now you can set it up throght yast to use a printer on a
windows machine. Nice when working with a samba server. I still need to
figure out how to put a printer on the samba box and share it with windows.
But its nice to be able to prin out doc to the other priter on winows. Yast
is realy greate , I couldint live without it right now. ,But could you
imagian a version that does it all for you. That would blow your socks off
, espeaciccaly Red Hat
I have kernel 2.2.0
>on my system anyhow, as well as an updated Samba, StarOffice 5, Wordperfect
>8, KDE 1 etc, so the boxed set probably won't do much beyond migrating me to
>glibc2, and hence RH compatability. BTW, what does "kernel 2.2 ready"
>actually mean - to me, simply that you've space on /usr/src for another
>source tree.
>
>TTFN
>Paul.
>
>On 10 February 1999 13:46, Chris Martin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't agree more with this. I have to admit that despite the fact
>that
>> SuSE has been very good to me (as a product), the recent total lack of
>> attention to detail surrounding 6.0 and the fact that RedHat is exploding
>> forward give me many doubts about SuSE as a company. Ultimately, in this
>> consumer driven world, the only way products hang around, even when they
>are
>> good/great like SuSE, is to have the coplementary good/great backing
>through
>> various support channels and, of course, things like an up to date and
>> comprehensive web site and, generally, a strong and attentive company
>> backing it. And, one must remember the mantra invoked by most strong
>companies
>> (RedHat?), IMAGE, IMAGE IMAGE Else, like someone on here so correctly
>said,
>> SuSE becomes the Amiga, the OS2, etc. I like SuSE a lot, but I am feeling
>less
>> and less like putting up with being in the minority's minority (even given
>that
>> I have a slightly better product) and with difficulties in getting what I
>want
>> when I want it (like RPM's! and up to date WebPages). If SuSE doesn't
>shift
>> into high gear, I fear that even your above average computer user, who
>> appreciates what SuSE has to offer over other distbns, will find
>themselves
>> nonetheless considering other distbns for these myriad reasons.
>>
>> To end this all on a nice note: Go SuSE!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10-Feb-99 Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:
>> >
>> > I couldn't have said it better.
>> >
>> > SuSE , I personally think, is a better product than RH, but seeing that
>they
>> > do not promote their product well in NA really really does hurt them
>where it
>> > hurts most. RH is almost synonymous with Linux, and vice versa. In
>fact, a
>> > newbie friend of mine didn't know that there was a company other than RH
>that
>> > produced Linux [distros].
>> >
>> > And yes, the american site of SuSE is a shame!! I mean it.
>www.suse.de/e is
>> > much better and much up to date. Why can't they just mirror the site to
>the
>> > american version, with some changes of course.
>> >
>> > ps. Gerry, I noticed that you are a Shaw Wave customer, so am I.
>> >
>> > I just wanted to ask where did you get your SuSE package? I got mine
>from
>> > Chapters [Highway7 and Woodbine] for only 45 bucks.
>> >
>> > I noticed that Chapters is now carrying the CALDERA OPEN LINUX 1.3 BASE
>> > version, but the price is a whopping 110 Canadian Dollars. JEEZ!!!
>> >
>> > Gerry Doris wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 6.0 has been released in Europe but Suse haven't bothered to update
>their
>> >> NA website in months. There is still the same old tired description of
>> >> what were going to be treated to...and much of it is wrong (ie. will
>ship
>> >> with 2.2 kernel, will be totally 2.2 kernel ready...). I've heard
>rumours
>> >> that 6.0 is actually shipping in NA but you wouldn't know it from
>anything
>> >> Suse does. Most companies would be making press releases all over the
>> >> place???
>> >>
>> >> Sorry if I'm being overly critical but there are other people working
>> >> very very hard to get my attention and $$$. If Suse thinks that just
>> >> tossing a product into the market (even if it's a superior product)
>will
>> >> win the day, well, they have a lot to learn.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: 10-Feb-99
>> Time: 08:29:37
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