I determined the problem with my failing smtp connection was is /etc/inetd.conf seems the line with mail got commented out, although I dont know how.... Neverthe less its working fine now Also my leafnode is working perfectly!! I came across this most excellent site that ironed out the problems I was having, followed to the letter and wallah!! http://h2o.hansol.co.kr/lg/issue09/newsserver.html this is an excellent how to for leafnode. The leafnode supplies news to my lan ----its a beautifull thing! ;-) rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm -- To get out of this list, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archive at http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html