My understanding is that fermented soy products and the non-fermented  ones 
are two very different kettles of fish.  I remember reading somewhere  to that 
in the Asian countries they don't drink plain soy or eat plain  soy/tofu a 
great deal - not like most of those in North America whom eat soy  products. 
Most 
of the soy they do ingest is in the fermented form. There are  many articles 
about soy on the Weston Price Foundation. 
 
     
The Ploy of Soy
Describes the historical use of fermented soy  products in China and the 
dangers of non-fermented soy products  being marketed as healthy in America 
today, 
... 
34 references
www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.html

Soy: The Dark Side of America's Favorite "Health" Food
by  Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig, PhD - includes some references 
_http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/darkside.html_ 
(http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/darkside.html)  
Sources: _www.csa.com/hottopics/thyroid/oview.html_ 
(http://www.csa.com/hottopics/thyroid/oview.html) 
_soyonlineservice.co.nz_ (http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/) 
_www.westonaprice.org_ (http://www.westonaprice.org)   
Reply to Robert Cohen, the Not Milk  Man                                      
                                
plus 11 References.
_http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html_ 
(http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html)  
Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers  Summarized
_http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html_ 
(http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html)  
(http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html) 
    *   High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of  calcium, 
magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not  neutralized by 
ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and  long, slow 
cooking. 
High phytate diets have caused growth problems in  children.  
    *   Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion  and may 
cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin  inhibitors 
caused stunted growth.  
    *   Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the  potential 
to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.   
    *   Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause  
hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy  
formula 
has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.  
    *   Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and  actually increase 
the body's requirement for B12.  
    *   Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.   
    *   Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature  processing to 
make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.  
    *   Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic  
lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.  
    *   Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed  during soy 
food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.   
    *   Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to  the 
nervous system and the kidneys. 

          best  wishes
                   Shan
 
In a message dated 08/07/2008 1:08:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I see no  lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the
Asian population and soy is used  everywhere in Asia.

But if it is proven to be "feminizing" then all  the
more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not  eat
it!

ns

            



   
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