George, Eric and Andy:

Interesting zoning law... 1.5 acres for first turbine, 5 acres thereafter.
Most zoning ordinances mandate a "fall zone" of 100 or 125 % but do not
mandate property size.  But 120 feet and up to 30 kW machine is not too
bad.  Most ordinances consider less than 100 kW "small wind".

I'm certainly no expert, but I did write a "Model Zoning Ordinance" for Ohio
a year or two ago for my own purposes based largely on the Wisconsin Model
Zoning Ordinance.

http://www.renewwisconsin.org/wind/Toolbox-Zoning/Small%20Wind%20System%20Model%20Ordinance%2012-06.pdf

Solar thermal is certainly more cost effective than photovoltaics.  Any type
of heating with photovoltaics is generally not such a good move unless you
have a very special situation.  Electricity is the most refined, highest
quality type of energy... heat is the crudest, lowest quality.  Therefore,
using extremely expensive PV panels to generate heat usually doesn't make
much sense.  Unless, for example, you have an extremely tight thermal
envelope and require only a small amount of heat to augment, say, an
off-grid passive solar thermal home.  Maybe...

As for water, we need to catch and store it!  This is going to be necessary
for multiple reasons, not the least of which is the unpredictability of
climatic patterns in our warming world or the fact that entire city and
regional plumbing is constantly deteriorating and in need of repair and as
we face peak oil it may be difficult to maintain this level of repair. Every
single home should have a rainwater catchment system in place.

Yes, large scale hydro isn't good for ecosystems... all those systems have
already been built, however.  I'm talking extremely small in comparison to
these mega systems.

Take Care:
Ryan D. Hottle

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Andy Goodell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> How about solar thermal oo? Supposedly 4x more efficient at warming
> water than solar electric, and still has good NYS incentives. A full
> system looks to be around $4000 for a family from estimates I have seen.
>
> While I love some concepts of small scale hydro, you need water, which
> is certainly not on everyone's property, and the larger scale you go,
> the more ecological effects are potentially an issue.
> -Andy
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