for my two-penny-worth Kurt's analysis is spot-on, though I'd add that as the web moves to an interactive networked multi-media experience, via SVG, but possibly missing flash, due to its strong marketing/terminus identity, the significance of labelling and RDF will develop. This requires that a suitable language for describing non-static states needs to also arise. Nouns have always been easier to illustrate than verbs, and game states represent a real challenge to any current technology. peer-to-peer communicated standards offer a possible real-time solution to defining snapshots of stasis in a changing world. Though whether it will be possible to create, encompass and engulf this information remains indeterminate.
blother ~:" Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.peepo.co.uk "It's easy to use" irc://freenode/accessibility On 26 Sep 2004, at 18:09, Kurt Cagle wrote: DHTML is not really a technology per se, it's more of a marketing term. In practice, DHTML = HTML + CSS + Javascript + DOM Next generation is looking a little different, but not radically so. Call it DWeb - DWeb = XHTML + SVG + XForms + XUL(?) + XSLT + CSS + DOM + Javascript If you look at the Mozilla implementation of SVG, what is most intriguing about it is that its DOM is directly accessible from the web page at the same level that XHTML is. This in turn means that you can have graphics that obey the same rules (and interact directly in the same fashion) as XHTML. Our expectations of SVG have been shaped by the fact that up until now most implementations have been closed box implementations where the boundary between the SVG and the rest of the document is very clear. Break out of that, and SVG becomes a very exciting technology indeed. -- Kurt Jim Ley wrote: > > "dellscreek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >A very candid comment. > > I'm not sure it's different from anything I've ever said before, SVG like > Flash are niche technologies, they do specific things very well, and > other > things really badly - if you try to write complete web-applications in > these > techs, you get a mess. DHTML being a more generic technology that > does text > and script well, but more importantly in a degradeable manner (if > you're any > good and have the time you can have your app work in browsers that aren't > DHTML capable or are only a bit DHTML capable) > > Jim. > > > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -or- > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > membership" > ---- > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129r01tu6/ M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=1706030389:HM/ EXP=1096283280/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://companion.yahoo.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <lrec_companion_043004.gif> <l.gif> Yahoo! Groups Links • To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
