I'm happy to hear from you, Ronan...
I've just tried a small file (http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/clock/clock.svg)
It doesn't require the Adobe's ext;
it has the correct namespace declaration;
it uses few scripting for DOM manipulation and a basic of filtering...

As it is, naturally, it doesn't renders on Firefox, 'cos I've used "svgDocument" 
instead of "document"...
As I change, Moz shows a blue circle (without errors)...

I don't know if Adobe provided many of these "shortcuts"...I'll be happy to avoid 
it!...But, please, what there is wrong in the file?

Agree also with Robin...I only would like to know what is "wrong" in Adobe and what's 
in Moz...
Thanks all
Mario


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  Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo


  Mario,


  > Your msg driven me to install Firefox with embedded SVG and, I must say,
  > that many of the svg files (even the simplest) aren't rendered correctly
  > or aren't rendered at all...
  > Probably the native svg of Mozilla is still under development and it's too
  > early to compare with mature viewers...that's an opinion...
  >

  You are right that Mozilla native viewer is still under development and is
  difficult to track, so it is hard to tell why things work and things don't
  work...

  However, the browser is very good now and is really starting to be stable,
  and is starting to show that many of us (myself included) have been loose
  with SVG because ASV allows it. I have noticed that a lot of my SVG does
  not render outside of ASV because of my own loose use of namespace and
  requirements that ASV provides shortcuts for.

  I'm not sure whether this is a problem for Adobe, for the developers of
  new browsers, of for image generators like us... But it is starting to be
  a problem that will not go away soon...

  For example, I rarely use IE, and only use ASV for about 30% of my work,
  and my default browser for SVG is mozilla with native svg support because
  it has excellent printing output (when it works). Of course, as your site
  demonstrate, I have to switch to ASV3.01 quite often...

  Hopefully we will become more tight in our implementations over time so we
  can browse the SVG on more platforms...

  Ronan

  > Thank you anyway...
  > Cheers
  > Mario
  >
  >
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  >   Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:16 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Photoalbum demo
  >
  >
  >   Very cool,
  >
  >   But you are limiting yourself to Adobe:
  >
  >   xmlns:a3="http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/3.0/
  >
  >   Looks cool on win32/IE6/ASV3.01
  >
  >   It does not render on mozilla 0.8 with native SVG.
  >
  >   Ronan
  >
  >   > Shame on me!...
  >   > Here is the link:
  >   > http://www2.tmn.it/xml/projects/album/album.svg
  >   >
  >   > Mario
  >   >
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