>that's preposterous, in terms of accessibility the SVG1.1 spec is >broken.
Certainly, but you keep bringing back specific discussions, about specific things, to the general SVG accessibility as a whole is broken. We were specifically discussing tooltips, nothing more. >In no case does the number of user agents have anything to do with the >matter. Of course it does, writing a whole load of crap javascript does not improve accessibility, never, rather than taking what I write to be about the thing I'm writing about - tooltips - you decide to extend what I write to everywhere > They may well be a minority, but >serving minorities is the meaning of accessibility. No it's not! accessibility is not about authors increasing their authoring costs hundreds of percent simply to work around bugs in user agents and specification, if you have a particular desire to support certain user agents, then it's down to you when you do it, however to criticise Dougs example because it didn't work in Mozilla SVG was extremely misleading when your example didn't work in Ikivo, Bitflash (and maybe even tinyline) whereas Dougs did. They're released shipping players used by thousands of people, Mozilla SVG certainly is not that. Supporting mozilla SVG can well be worthwhile but not at the expense of other user agents, and certainly don't expect others to go out of there way to work around its bugs/limitations, as it's pre-beta product, and those limitations and bugs will soon be fixed. The SMIL solution for tooltips is a very good one, much better than the script one, for a large number of reasons. >Your contribution to the mozSVG accessibility bug team is awaited. I do not use mozilla, so I won't be finding bugs in it, I find the interface annoying as a browser, I'm doing what I can to aid the project though as you well know. Jim. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $4.98 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Q7_YsB/neXJAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/