Hi again and I am thankful for the reply first of all and I am yeah 
interested in studying your experience with svg....
I am actually working in a telecommunication company and I was the 
one to suggest the use of svg ...so what i am doing is also 
something that can be considered unique and not preceded...but I am 
not going to seek patent or any such thing for it..
dynamically and visually mapping device controls data for remote 
panels....
As en egyptian seeing obelisks and mummies and statues all over the 
world ..add to that films  making billions with history defaming 
stories about mummies..and loads of gamez....targeting the same 
thing...and no talk whatso ever of patent...while as a developer u 
cant breath without purchasing a patent...and rumors soon eclipse 
and java may be too so it actually unbearable...
anyways...
I am still interested yeah..
kojo

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Rick Bullotta" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fear not, nothing heinous.  I share the same concerns you do.  I 
think it is
> ridiculous some of the patents that have been applied for (and 
granted). It
> bugs me to no end.  I've seen things like the SCO suit which is a 
last-ditch
> desperation move by a dying company, and the many ridiculous dot-
com
> lawsuits, and even some in our industry (manufacturing) around 
what was
> supposed to be an "open standard".
> 
>  
> 
> In fact, I've always been pretty willing to share what we've been 
doing as
> far as the SVG animation part of it.  Just that no one seemed to be
> interested ;).
> 
>  
> 
> The "unique" stuff we're doing is more in our connectivity and 
data binding
> approach to manufacturing and ERP data sources.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm all for opening up and sharing what we're doing around SVG and
> visualization.  We gain significant value from open source efforts 
and have
> contributed (code, testing, and $$$) to many of them.
> 
>  
> 
> Things like W3C-driven standards efforts have always seemed like a 
bit of a
> closed club.  Irregardless, I'd be all for a "non-standard" but 
valuable
> open source effort around this type of effort.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone interested?
> 
>  
> 
> - Rick
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barend K�bben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [svg-developers] XMl 2 SVG
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Rick,
> 
>  
> 
> although I recognise the need of the possibility to actually earn 
money
> using an open standard like SVG, the hair on the back of my neck 
stood up
> when I read "created a (patent applied for) model ". Apart from 
the obvious
> question what on earth you guys might think is unique in 
your 'model',
> software developers in the'open' community in Europe are currently 
trying to
> convince the EU not to follow the  disastrous road of patenting 
that eg the
> US has been taking. 
> 
>  
> 
> Come on people, we are in serious threat of living , in a few 
years from
> now, in a world where big companies will sue you for making a 
program that
> uses the concept "it starts loading data when you use an 'open 
menu'
> command", just because they happen to have been the first who 
patented this
> "unique idea"...
> 
> ____________________________ 
> 
> Barend K�bben 
> 
> International Institute for Geo-information Sciences and  Earth 
Observation
> (ITC) 
> 
> PO Box 6, 7500AA Enschede (The Netherlands) 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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