Well thnx alot for the elaboration It is very
useful...yet I am facing troubles using the repeat
tag...and how would you see xforms..will it be able to
integrate with visual svg tools from adobe and
others...
also I am still not very sure why it did not work on
example.com...and if there is a server I can try my
work with.....or do I need a special local machine set
up...to be able to extract data from.other xml files
and post requests...
thnx again..xforms actually is the nicest thing I
experienced after mango...as I hate scripts..
kojo
--- Mark Birbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kojo,
> 
> Without getting more of an idea of how the file is
> currently structured, I'm
> not sure what particular part of the problem is
> going to be the most
> important for you to solve. For example, if it's
> simply the management of a
> large number of controls, then the XForms <repeat>
> element is ideal -- it
> iterates across a nodeset, and renders a template
> for each node. So, if you
> had 23 elements called 'data' in your instance data,
> you might do this:
> 
>     <xf:repeat nodeset="data">
>       <xf:trigger appearance="minimal">
>         <xf:label>
>           <svg:svg width="100" height="100"
> viewBox="0 0 100 100">
>             <svg:rect fill="green" x="0" y="0"
> height="100" width="100" />
>           </svg:svg>
>         </xf:label>
>         ...
>       </xf:trigger>
>     </xf:repeat>
> 
> and you would get 23 buttons. (I'm sure you don't
> mean that you have 23
> identical buttons, but this technique may account
> for at least some of
> them.)
> 
> On you other hand, you might be talking about how
> you actually 'wire' the
> XForms data to the SVG 'widgets'. This is best done
> through events, and a
> very simple example is here (the bars in the bar
> chart are updated with the
> current temperature, obtained from a weather web
> service):
> 
>  
>
<http://www.formsplayer.com/demo/web-services/weather-svg.html>
> 
> The script in this example is only concerned with
> taking the data from the
> XForms instance and putting it into the correct
> places to get the height of
> the bars, labels, etc. Although ideally we would
> even get rid of this
> script, at least it does mean that by using XForms
> we're not having to write
> all the other script to send and receive data
> requests, validate the data,
> send change events to the UI, and so on. If you can
> reduce your script to
> perform just this purpose -- essentially connecting
> the model to the view --
> then the final step will be to replace this script
> with XBL or a close
> relative.
> 
> For example, the script in the weather demo that
> takes a value from the data
> and uses it to set the height of a bar can be
> replaced with a simple
> declarative statement in XBL 1.0.
> 
> Anyway, if you are able to post parts of your form
> to this list it would
> help, and I think it might be an interesting
> exercise to see how it could be
> converted to declarative mark-up using XForms and
> SVG (and others may be
> able to see how much of it can be done in Mozilla,
> too).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Birbeck
> CEO
> x-port.net Ltd.
> 
> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232
> w: http://www.formsPlayer.com/
> 
> Download our XForms processor from
> http://www.formsPlayer.com/
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A.M.Shourbagui
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 19 December 2004 02:08
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Re: SVG post server
> request...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well I have tried it and it works fine it just
> needs
> > some enhancements to be imlemented..
> > Yet I think it is ideal with my project as I have
> a
> > web server with very very limited
> capabilities...so I
> > want to get rid of scripting as much as possible
> ..
> > but I do have a large svg file and around 23
> > buttons..how can I integrate xforms with each svg
> > button...is there a scenario for that...
> > thnx a million
> > Kojo
> > --- Mark Birbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Jeff,
> > > 
> > > To show how powerful XForms + SVG is, I took
> your
> > > snippet of code, and
> > > turned it into XForms + SVG -- your SVG
> rectangle is
> > > still used to initiate
> > > the submission, but the submission and event
> > > handling is defined in terms of
> > > XForms rather than bits of script.
> > > 
> > > I've also replaced your alerts with XForms
> messages,
> > > which allows me to show
> > > off some additional features, namely putting
> further
> > > SVG in the messages.
> > > 
> > > Finally, I've put a bit more SVG into the
> > > mouseover/hint to show how easy
> > > that is -- not something that's very easy to do
> > > without even more script in
> > > SVG.
> > > 
> > > The entire mark-up is here, and a link to a live
> > > form on our server is at
> > > the end:
> > > 
> > >   <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> > >   <html
> > >    xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";
> > >    xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events";
> > >    xmlns:xf="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms";
> > >    xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";
> > >   >
> > >     <head>
> > >       <xf:model>
> > >         <!--
> > >           The data we want to submit
> > >         -->
> > >         <xf:instance>
> > >           <test xmlns="" />
> > >         </xf:instance>
> > > 
> > >         <!--
> > >           This is the actual submission -- send
> the
> > > data
> > >           referred to, to the specified URL, and
> put
> > > the
> > >           returned value in the same instance.
> > >         -->
> > >         <xf:submission id="s1"
> > > action="http://example.org";
> > >          method="post" replace="instance">
> > >           <!--
> > >             The event xforms-submit happens on
> the
> > > reqest,
> > >             but before the work is done. We show
> a
> > > modal
> > >             message at this point. Note that the
> > > message
> > >             has SVG in it.
> > >           -->
> > >           <xf:message level="modal"
> > > ev:event="xforms-submit">
> > >             About to post because you pressed
> the
> > > red square that looks
> > >             like this 
> > >               <svg:svg width="25" height="25"
> > > viewBox="0 0 100 100">
> > >                 <svg:rect fill="red" x="0" y="0"
> > > height="100" width="100" />
> > >               </svg:svg>
> 
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